The DS built-in flash works fine as a full-power manual flash, though: just set the aperture per the guide number table in the manual (page 149), and be sure the shutter is set to 1/180 sec or slower.
GodfreyThanks for the heads up on that. I haven't used the built in flash on the ist-Ds yet. I have a small vivitar flash that does both ttl and auto. Does anyone know if ttl flash will work with K and M lenses, auto should work just fine.
Butch

