I've been away for some days for a short vacation. The result is 140 RAW
files. I'll start converting them with my newly downloaded Rawshooter. 

Until now I've been working with the converter in Elements. The first
impressin on the Rawshooter is; mush better user interference, and better
quality in the converting process. It also seems to give me better control
on the result. 

I've also bought myself a very nice Norwegian book about digital photo. I've
read the chapters about digital editing, and now I'm looking forward to put
my new knowledge into real work. So I hope I will be able to do something
with the skin tones in "Gabriel, the Listener" soon. If I fail, I will
probably ask you guys for help.

Markus Maurer. I tried your suggestions. Whatever what spot I tried to use
as reference, the result turned out bad. I don't think that’s the right way
to go in this shot. But thank you for the tip. I'll try it on other photos.
What I'll try here is to play a bit with the curves. 

Rick Womer suggested B&W. That would make the skin tones more pleasant.
Perhaps turn the picture a bit more romantic. That might be a good idea, but
not what I intended. I don't want to make a romantic picture. I want it to
be an honest picture, reflecting what I actually saw that moment. And
Gabriel has a very special "redish" skin tone at summertime. If I fail in
adjusting the tones, then B&W might be the "right" compromise, but still a
compromise, not honest to my intentions. 
Don't get me wrong Rick, I do appreciate your comment.
In fact it made me more aware on what my intentions really where.

I find the comments very inspiring. They make me want tweak most out of this
shot. I'll have another round photoshoping, pushing my limits. 
Hopefully, turning me into a better photographer. ;-)

About the light source in upper right: I left it there on purpose. The
compositional idea was to make a triangle of the light source, the bottom of
the empty glass, and the guy's glasses. Hopefully this will make your eyes
circle from one element to the next. 

As I read your comments, I've succeeded in this. But Boris eyes tends to
stop up on the light (can't please them all).

Hope this does not sound too pompous. 
 

Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian.)

Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)


-----Original Message-----
From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 22. juli 2005 04:13
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: PESO:Gabriel, the Listener

On 7/21/05, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<snip>
> Frank, I chose to reply to your comment rather than to original Tim's
> posting...

You're allowed.  <vbg>

> 
> Fascinating, truly fascinating. I really hate the light source on the
> background. It is so big and so strong that it grabs my attention
> pulling it away from the main subject... I'd rather see it smaller or
> darker - less prominent...

Must be a personal thing.  I like 'em, you don't.  I seem to recall a
photo of my friend Jennifer singing had a smallish spotlight in the
background (of course I can't find it right now...).  I had it in
there on purpose, and was rather pleased with the result.  IIRC, you
didn't like it.  To me, it gives a stage photo some atmosphere, some
context, to show that it is indeed a performer on stage.  To you, it's
a distraction.

If we were all the same, the world would be a boring place, wouldn't it?

cheers,
frank


-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson





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