Yeah yeah...  :-)  I didn't mean to start a thread about manipulation vs.
non-manipulation (or did I)?   No, I didn't really.  Not without Mafud!!!

I agree that there are various forms of manipulation.  Any printing of a
negative, is a manipulation of sorts, as it's an interpretation of the image
on the film.  As is cropping.

The purist side of me does not like manipulated images. The pragmatic side
of me says it's fine as long as the image is not presented as a unaltered
photographic work of art.  There's lots of reasons to manipulate an image,
both personal & business related.

Tom C.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pentax List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 9:47 AM
Subject: RE: Photoshop Advice


> >> As a purist, I must say no to any despicable alteration of the original
> >> material in this manner.  :-)  Seriously, even though I put a smiley
there.
> >>
> >> Tom
> ><SNIP stuff about correcting verticals in Photoshop>
> >
> >Ah, but Tom, have you never tilted your baseboard when enlarging a shot
of a
> >building to correct the converging verticals?  I think that it's
> >legitimate if
> >you do not access to a camera with movements.
>
> Surely, the finished print / slide / image on a monitor is the result of
> a process that involves any number of aspects, for example manipulation
> in a darkroom / manipulation in Photoshop / or how about going back
> earlier in that process and using a lens that corrects converging
> verticals / using a filter / heck even smearing the lens with petroleum
> jelly! I believe that my original recorded image to be (an essential)
> part of a means to an end, which is what I produce for you to see.
>
> As it happens, I prefer to keep my images as close to what I saw when I
> pressed the shutter, so I will optimise the image to my liking, to convey
> what I felt at the time.  I would not place (say) an image of a plane
> next to an image of the moon when the two were taken seperately, at
> different times, perhaps on different days. Though if I saw such an
> image, I would admire it for what it was, not think about how it was
> achieved. Sure, I would admire the photographer for telling me that he
> waited hours for that composition, but unless he or she was there to tell
> me, I wouldn't know. I look at the finished piece and I like it or I
> don't.
>
> My .02 pence.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Cotty
>
>
>
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