Hi Joe

I think that this forum is about Pentax and photography and not about beauty
alone.
Showing only beautiful things here is a severe limitation and a denial of
real life.

Please keep posting interesting photos like that.

greetings
Markus



>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Joseph Tainter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 5:32 AM
>>To: [email protected]
>>Subject: [Fwd: RE: PESOs: The Real Southwest]
>>
>>
>>Okay, maybe I need to go into this a bit more deeply.
>>
>>Real Southwest 1:
>>
>>http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/535671/display/3704299
>>
>>The Navajo (this is part of their land) find beauty in even such a
>>place. I do too. Above the mailbox is a bit of the formation that
>>elsewhere is called the Painted Desert. Off in the distance is Sleeping
>>Ute Mountain. The road leads to it. Look at the clouds building in the
>>blue sky. I find beauty in the majesty of this open, isolated place,
>>where on one else is around.
>>
>>Real Southwest 2:
>>
>>http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/535671/display/3704304
>>
>>A lot of people in this part of the country lead a low maintenance/low
>>overhead life. It is, in part, because of poverty. But not entirely. How
>>to explain it? It is just the way of life. Some people will work in the
>>city, then on weekends go back to a place that looks like this. It is
>>their home, and they love it. I love this area and enjoy photographing
>>it, including (sometimes especially) this part of it. Buildings such as
>>this fit (blend, really) into the landscape like buildings in few other
>>places I have visited.
>>
>>Some years ago I talked with a woman who lives in Maryland. She had just
>>been to visit the Hopi Indian Reservation in northeastern Arizona. She
>>hadn't liked it. I asked: Why not? She couldn't quite put it into words,
>>but after some prompting she admitted being bothered by the fact that
>>they don't have front lawns. At that point I gave up trying to talk to
>>her. Her experience of life was just too narrow, and she couldn't grow
>>beyond that. I think her problem was in assuming that aspiring to an
>>American home, with a front lawn, would be natural for everyone. Not so.
>>Many people in the Southwest would not have such a home even though they
>>can afford it.
>>
>>That said, I do realize that people who live in greener parts of the
>>world sometimes find the Southwest too stark and brown.
>>
>>Tony Hillerman, one of our novelists, tells a story about talking to a
>>fellow on a bus while traveling through some empty New Mexico landscape.
>>The guy lived in this state but said he didn't like it. Hillerman asked
>>him why not. He replied that it was too isolated and stark (or something
>>along those lines). Hillerman's comment in his essay was that this was
>>precisely why he does live here. Some of us just like it.
>>
>>On PDML I have posted a photo or two showing how people live in Mali.
>>The purpose isn't to show their poverty, but how wonderfully they cope
>>with a life that most of us would find difficult. (Incidentally, poverty
>>is relative to information. Most Malians are wonderfully happy and
>>unaware that they are what we would call "poor.")
>>
>>The Southwest is a quirky place. If I was just visiting here, I would
>>want to find places such as in these photos, to experience the place
>>whole. When in former East Germany and the Czech Republic recently I
>>took several photos of once beautiful buildings that were allowed to
>>decay in the Soviet era. I may inflict one or two of those on the list
>>when I get around to it. I find beauty in their decay.
>>
>>Joe
>>
>>-------- Original Message --------
>>Subject: RE: PESOs: The Real Southwest
>>Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 21:03:37 -0600
>>From: Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: [email protected]
>>
>>Hi Joe,
>>
>>
>>You asked for reactions so I suppose you won't mind a negative one. To
>>be truthful, I don't care for either one. While they may be an accurate
>>representation of the less beautiful, less fortunate side of the
>>American Southwest, I feel that I see enough ugliness in the world as it
>>is, that I don't need to see more.
>>
>>As you obviously know there's plenty of beautiful scenes and vistas in
>>those areas that are uplifting. It's not that I want to close my eyes to
>>reality, it's just that I would rather vicariously experience those
>>mindblowingly beautiful slices of your trips as opposed to the less
>>pretty ones.
>>
>>No offense intended.
>>
>>Tom C.
>>
>>----------
>>
>>Your reaction is fine, Tom. Sorry if I inflicted some ugliness on you.
>>But did you read my postscript?
>>
>>I enjoy both of these places. They are not conventionally beautiful, but
>>I find them interesting, and enjoyable thus. I am fascinated by the
>>mailbox. The last time I drove by that intersection was five years ago,
>>and I don't recall it being there.
>>
>>Joe
>>
>>

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