I know..I know.
I'm making no effort to compare different dimension
sensors.
Thanks for input.

Jack

--- Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The point is...
> 
> If the APS size sensor gives acceptable performance,
> then a 24x36 mm sensor 
> designed to the same pixel density and pixel
> performance IS better. At any 
> rate, the comment regarding medium format sensors is
> still valid. Again, 
> think about it.
> 
> Regards,
> Bob...
>
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> By all means, marry. If you get a good wife, you'll
> become happy;
> if you get a bad one, you'll become a philosopher.
>  - Socrates
> 
> 
> From: "Jack Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
> > Bob, I look at pixels more as grain in film. All
> else
> > being equal, a 50 Velvia 120/35 image will yield
> > greater resolution than the same shot using 200
> Gold.
> > Regardless of format, I assume there would be no
> limit
> > to the resolution gains to be realized by using
> finer
> > grain film.
> > Apparently I can't apply this standard to pixels.
> Nor
> > can the magazine writer.(?)
> > I'm wondering at what point does a noise producing
> > higher pixel count sensor lose its advantage over
> > another sensor of the same size, but with fewer
> > pixels.
> >
> > Jack
> >
> > --- Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> I understood the point of your (very reasonable)
> >> question, so why be picky?
> >> Truth is, I didn't even notice it and further, I
> >> screw up all the time
> >> myself.
> >>
> >> Whatever can be done at one size can be done at
> most
> >> any size. The cost is
> >> chip yield. The fact that some idiot in a
> magazine
> >> says that an APS sensor
> >> would contain more tightly packed pixels than
> would
> >> a 24x36 and so 24x36 is
> >> unnecessary, doesn't mean that it must be that
> way.
> >> If what the writer said
> >> is true, then there's no point to medium format
> >> digital cameras! Think about
> >> it.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Bob...
> >>
> >
>
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> >> By all means, marry. If you get a good wife,
> you'll
> >> become happy;
> >> if you get a bad one, you'll become a
> philosopher.
> >>  - Socrates
> >>
> >>
> >> From: "Jack Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> >>
> >> > Bob,
> >> > Thanks for your response and for ignoring my
> >> misuse of
> >> > the word "throws". SHB: "Throes".
> >> > Didn't I see  something in a photo magazine
> about
> >> the
> >> > fact that an APS sensor would contain more
> tightly
> >> > packed pixels than would a 24x36? Thus,
> according
> >> to
> >> > the writer, assuming the same pixel count, the
> >> smaller
> >> > sensor would capture and reveal more detail.
> >> > Why do I doubt the assumption?
> >> >
> >> > Jack
> >> >
> >> > --- Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> There will always be a niche market for film,
> >> even
> >> >> 35mm. Digital will
> >> >> supplant it for most real applications, most
> >> >> importantly in the consumer
> >> >> market where the dollars, euros, pounds, yen,
> >> etc.
> >> >> are, but film still
> >> >> offers some image advantages (or at least
> claimed
> >> >> advantages), and
> >> >> aficionados will still provide some market,
> >> enough
> >> >> for perhaps two or so
> >> >> small outfits to produce it. The intelligence
> >> >> agencies still use it for best
> >> >> detail and (what's the word?) acuity and will
> >> >> continue to use it for non
> >> >> real time airborne reconnaissance, so someone
> >> will
> >> >> continue making that.
> >> >> Slitting it  to 35mm and perforating it is a
> >> small
> >> >> thing, and it can then be
> >> >> sold to those few consumers who still want it.
> >> >> Astronomers will still demand
> >> >> it for some applications, though the format
> will
> >> be
> >> >> larger, still, it starts
> >> >> out as rolls that can be slit. Why 35mm? Well,
> in
> >> my
> >> >> opinion it provides the
> >> >> best compromise between versatility (as a
> >> function
> >> >> of size) and quality (as
> >> >> a function of image area). FYI, while I'm sure
> >> that
> >> >> many will not agree,
> >> >> this is the same reason I would prefer a
> 24x36mm
> >> >> sensor for a 35mm sized
> >> >> camera. As it is with film, so it is with
> sensors
> >> -
> >> >> the larger the format,
> >> >> the greater quality potential.
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> Bob...
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >
>
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> >> >> By all means, marry. If you get a good wife,
> >> you'll
> >> >> become happy;
> >> >> if you get a bad one, you'll become a
> >> philosopher.
> >> >>  - Socrates
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> From: "Jack Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > How much longer will starving film cameras
> >> demand
> >> >> 35mm
> >> >> > color pos/neg films be produced? What level
> of
> >> >> > production and availability would qualify as
> >> "in
> >> >> > production"?
> >> >> > What's the likelihood of film's
> resuscitation
> >> >> through
> >> >> > some manner of structural breakthrough?
> >> >> > Un-answerable, but care to muse?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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