I think I've heard about that exhibit. :-)
Dave On 8/30/05, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <snip> There's a lot of shit covering the walls in a lot of galleries. <snip> > Shel > > > > [Original Message] > > Wrom: TTZRCLBDXRQBGJSNBOHMKHJYFMYXOE > > To: <[email protected]> > > Date: 8/30/2005 6:30:44 AM > > Subject: RE: First attemt on B&W conversion > > > > Shit in = shit out ;-) > > That's what you are saying, is it? > > I get your point, and I do believe that's one of the problems. But I have > > tweaked a bit, using levels to improve the contrast, adjusted gamma. > Hue/Sat > > I haven't tried. My starting point is online, at the same page. (It is > > thumbed below; clicking the thumb changes the displayed image). Right now > I > > have both versions on screen. There is a lot of difference. Starting point > > has more contrast, and are lighter. > > > > >I'd also strongly recommend you learn what good B&W photography looks > > >like. > > >Visit some galleries, get some books, shoot some B&W film. > > > > > Done that, been there ;-) > > In my teens I shot some B&W, played a bit in the darkroom. It's a long > time > > ago. But still, done that. > > I've also read a photomag or two in my life, perhaps even three ;-), > > Been to a gallery, and... > > > > I could do more, but basically I'm a "learning by doing" person. I learn a > > lot better when I'm able to connect what I see with what I do. > > (In fact, I believe that's the best way to learn for everybody, but that's > > subject for a completely different thread) > > > > This may sound as I reject what you say. > > I don't, I really do appreciate your input. In fact, you're a diamond ;-) > > > > > > Tim > > Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) > > > > Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds > > (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > Wrom: AIJJPHSCRTNHGSWZIDREXCAXZOWCONEUQZAAFXISHJEXXIMQZ > > > Sent: 30. august 2005 14:49 > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: RE: First attemt on B&W conversion > > > > > > When I first saw this photo I commented on its low contrast and > softness. > > > It looks as though you tried to make the conversion without first > > > adjusting > > > the color, which I suspect you did since the result you got looks like I > > > recall my result to be (I played with the pic a bit) before adjusting > the > > > color. Now, go back to the original pic and play with the contrast, > > > brightness, hue, saturation, and so on until you get a decent color > > > rendition, and THEN make the conversion. There's a lot more color in the > > > original photo than is apparent at first glance. > > > > > > You might also be able to use the double Huse/Saturation technique with > > > good results rather than the channel mixer. > > > > > > I'd also strongly recommend you learn what good B&W photography looks > > > like. > > > Visit some galleries, get some books, shoot some B&W film. > > > > > > Shel > > > > > > > > > > [Original Message] > > > > Wrom: UIVOTQNQEMS > > > > > > > This is my first attempt on doing a B&W conversion. No it isn't. I > have > > > > tried before, with a crappy technique from a computer geek book about > > > using > > > > PSE3. > > > > > > > > You have seen the picture before. > > > > This time I've tried a simple Channel Mix. > > > > 20 red, 70% green and 10% blue. The values Shel suggested as a > starting > > > > point. I fiddled a bit back and forth, but ended up with this. It came > > > out > > > > Ok-, but nothing more. > > > > > > > > Anybody got better ideas? A better mix, another solution? Not too > fancy > > > > please, I'm a total newbie at this. > > > > > > > Oh, nearly forgot ;-) > > > > http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=191903 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
