Don,
Pick up a long and VERY flexible cable release. ;-]
Use a tripod and stay with the coffee.
Favorite bumper sticker of the month: "Give me coffee
and no one gets hurt".

Ja-Ja-Ja-Jack

--- Don Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Jack, it was very dark this morning, shutter
> speeds
> anywhere from 1/30 down to 1/8.
> I'm not known for steadiness anyway and this was
> after
> 2 1/2 pots of coffee! ;-)
> 
> 
> Da-Da-Da-Da-Don (*Enough* with the coffee already!)
> ;-)
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jack Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 7:09 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: A50/1.4 versus M50/1.4, Comment
> Please
> > 
> > 
> > Don,
> > Have been casually following this thread and
> finally
> > have a question. Your last post included the
> > comment;"a good bit of motion blur" even though
> all 22
> > frames were apparently shot "wide open". (f/2).
> Poor
> > lighting and dull subject?
> > Under the circumstances, it would seem difficult
> to
> > assign blame to lens.
> > I own an M 50 f/1.4 (also an A f/2 that came with
> a
> > Super Program a few years ago)) and I'll try some 
> > shots at f/1.4. I'll use a heavy tripod, mlu and
> self
> > timer. They'll be on film, so will take a little
> > longer.
> > 
> > Jack
> > 
> > --- Don Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > Thanks Godfrey, for going to all that work.
> > > I think I've just reached the point that either
> the
> > > A50, or my attitude,
> > > needs an overhaul.
> > > I am 100% certain that there is nothing wrong
> with
> > > the lens.
> > > Either my eyes, camera, attitude, or a
> combination
> > > of them is
> > > my problem.
> > > I have had good shots with this lens on the D,
> but
> > > they're
> > > more the exception than the rule.
> > > I went out after a rainstorm this morning with
> the D
> > > wearing an
> > > older (all metal) M50/2 I had just cleaned.
> > > 22 shots, all wide open, and not a single
> seriously
> > > mis-focused
> > > one. (Good bit of motion blur though!) ;-(
> > > Granted the smaller stop is a big help, but it's
> > > just strange that
> > > I can't do this with the brighter lens.
> > > Oh well, ya gotta use what works. ;-)
> > > 
> > > Thanks again for the tests.
> > > 
> > > Don
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 4:28 PM
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: Re: A50/1.4 versus M50/1.4, Comment
> > > Please
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Don,
> > > > 
> > > > Your tests with the 50mm lenses made me
> interested
> > > to do a little  
> > > > testing, since I have F50/1.7, A50/1.4,
> A50/1.7,
> > > and A50/2 lenses at  
> > > > present. I also have a K50/1.4 lens belonging
> to
> > > another PDMLer which  
> > > > needed a quick test because the box it was
> shipped
> > > in was so crushed  
> > > > in shipment to me (I'm handing this lens off
> to
> > > yet another PDMLer..  
> > > > yeah, complicated).
> > > > 
> > > > I set up the tripod and DS body on my porch,
> used
> > > a set of U-Haul  
> > > > moving boxes (for their printed matter) at
> about
> > > 10' distance as a  
> > > > focusing target. My F50/1.7 has been the only
> > > "problematic" Pentax  
> > > > lens on AF I've got ... it is the only one
> that
> > > regularly doesn't  
> > > > focus smoothly and quickly ... so I started
> with
> > > that. I set aperture  
> > > > wide open, set exposure via Av for the F and A
> > > series lenses, set the  
> > > > same exposure manually for the K, and made two
> > > exposures each: one  
> > > > focused manually by eye, one focused manually
> with
> > > the 2x magnifier.  
> > > > I made an additional exposure with the F50
> using
> > > AF. I wasn't looking  
> > > > at OOF rendering or other characteristics in
> this
> > > test, just near- 
> > > > center resolution/contrast and my ability to
> focus
> > > the lenses  
> > > > accurately.
> > > > 
> > > > The results:
> > > > - For all lenses, a noticeable change in focus
> was
> > > seen with the 2x  
> > > > magnifier when making a focus ring change of
> less
> > > than 10 degrees.  
> > > > The F50 ring has the shortest turn and is the
> most
> > > sensitive to  
> > > > change. The focus indicator light is
> illuminated
> > > through 10-15  
> > > > degrees turn of the focus ring with all of
> these
> > > lenses, so for f/1.7  
> > > > and f/1.4 lenses, it simply cannot be trusted
> at
> > > wide open aperture.
> > > > 
> > > > - F50/1.7 focused very poorly on AF with this
> > > target. Out of 5 tries  
> > > > (set focus on my hand at 20 inches, let
> refocus on
> > > the target), four  
> > > > were badly defocused, the fifth was passable
> only.
> > > Focused manually,  
> > > > it produced the sharpest and clearest image.
> > > > 
> > > > - Differences between the A50/1.4 and K50/1.4
> are
> > > small but  
> > > > noticeable. The A50 is sharper and more
> contrasty
> > > wide open, lead to  
> > > > greater focusing accuracy with either eye or
> > > magnifier. Both require  
> > > > some delicacy and patience in setting critical
> > > focus... even a tiny  
> > > > movement of the focus ring can throw them off
> the
> > > best setting.
> > > > 
> > > > - The A50/1.7 was almost the same as the F50,
> > > although *slightly*  
> > > > less contrasty. Perhaps they improved the lens
> > > coatings between the A  
> > > > and F versions at tiny bit? The difference is
> > > within my average focus  
> > > > error, it seems. The A50/2 was also surprising
> > > close to the A50/1.7  
> > > > on center too, although corners and edges fell
> off
> > > more.
> > > > 
> > > > - The use of the 2x magnifier helps, but it
> still
> > > requires patience  
> > > > and care to set accurate focus with such a
> large
> > > lens opening at this  
> > > > distance. Three out of the five sets showed no
> > > significant difference  
> > > > in focusing by eye, vs with the magnifier, one
> was
> 
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