Hi Mike ...
I read the Gibson interview just a day or so back, so I
suppose his comment was in the forefront of my mind, although
I have heard others express the same thought in a very similar
manner. I really didn't think much about their origin when I
typed those words.
As for the LX noise, it varies from camera to camera, and, it
seems, depends a lot on which lens is attached. I have three
LX, and the older one makes that "sproing" sound in just about
every instance. However, I have two newer models, one of
which I recently purchased new myself, and their sound is more
like a quiet "thunk". However, when I placed a K24/2.8 on the
newest body, the shutter sounded like the older camera. I was
very upset, thinking that I'd damaged the body somehow. But
when I changed to another lens the camera went back to making
the quieter, more substantial sound of the new body.
I've also heard some list members note that the sound changed
after a CLA. So, while you are correct in terms of what you
hear with your LX and with whatever lens(es) you're using,
it's not true of all LX under all circumstances. This of
course in no way diminishes the fact that, in all cases, the
LX is louder than a Leica.
Mike Johnston wrote:
>
> Shel B. wrote:
>
> > I think the best feature about true rangefinder cameras is the
> > viewfinder. With the Leica, as with others, one is able to
> > see outside the frame lines, and can watch the scene and the
> > action unfold in front of you. One makes a photograph based
> > on the presence or absence of various aspects of the subject,
> > and is able to anticipate a photographic "decisive moment" by
> > what's taking place outside the frame line. With a reflex,
> > the camera tells you what it sees.
>
> Shel,
> Great post, but should you be giving credit to Ralph Gibson for that last
> line? There's an interview with Gibson at:
>
> http://www.bermangraphics.com/press/ralphgibson.htm
>
> where he says:
>
> "Here's what really happens. I'll explain. I have spent forty years working
> with the rangefinder. The rangefinder Leica enables you to see what's
> outside of the frame as well as what's inside of the frame. You make a kind
> of decision predicated on the presence and/or the absence of various aspects
> of your subject. With a reflex, the camera tells you what it sees, and half
> the time it's out of focus. You could follow a reflex around the world just
> to focus it until you came across the picture. With a rangefinder you see
> something. You take the picture and you continue to look at what you're
> seeing. The rangefinder is ideally coupled to the perceptive act, the act of
> perception. Where as the reflex, I only use them if I have to do extreme
> close-ups."
>
>
> > It has been demonstrated time after time that people are less
> > concerned about being photographed with a Leica than with an
> > SLR. Perhaps it's because the camera has an old-fashioned and
> > non-professional look to it, or because the lenses are smaller
> > and don't pose quite the threat, or because the camera is
> > quieter ... it doesn't matter, people accept being
> > photographed with a rangefinder more easily than with an SLR.
>
> This is so true. Sometimes I thnk Leicas are literally invisible. I'll never
> forget the time I was sitting on a couch next to my girlfriend's
> grandmother, an old woman who was camera shy. I was fooling with my Leica as
> I talked to her. Darned if I wasn't able to take a few pictures of her
> without her even noticing. She was looking right at me, talking, and didn't
> have any clue that I was actually taking pictures. Amazing.
>
> > Of course I'd never give up my LX cameras. They make a great
> > combination with the Leica.
>
> The _only_ bad thing about the LX (IMHO) is the excessive shutter noise.
> Compared to a Leica it's like a steel trap springing shut. "Clack-SPROING!"
>
> --Mike
>
> P.S. Giving credit where credit is due, thanks to Bob Meier for sending me
> the Gibson interview URL.
>
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