My goodness Graywolf, I thought you were sporting a Hillary for
President sticker for a little while there...  Bob S.

On 9/19/05, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> May I comment (as if you could stop me)?
> 
> Man is a tribal, village creature. The psychs say that although we live
> in cities with millions of people in them, we still limit ourselves to
> about 200 whom we interact with seriously. You seem to have noticed
> that, and your photo shows your reaction. It is good art. I know you
> feel pretentious about calling your photography art, but art in not
> pretentious. (However ART is. Folks who say they are ARTISTS are those
> we have to watch out for.) Most of the photos you show do convey
> something to the viewer beyond the obvious (unlike most of my stuff
> which are simply pictures of people or things). To me that IS art.
> 
> --graywolf (who really has to get his sig file reconnected, but at least
> the computer is working again).
> 
> -----
> 
> 
> frank theriault wrote:
> 
> >On 9/19/05, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>What I was asking about, and commenting upon, is that I find it strange
> >>that ~you~ wouldn't know why you liked your own work.
> >>
> >>Every time you edit your photos you're critiquing your work.  When you
> >>shoot a roll of 36 and decide to print but one or two, you've made an
> >>editorial decision, decided which is acceptable and which is not.  I would
> >>think that if you understood why you liked a photo, what made it work for
> >>you, it might be helpful.
> >>
> >>I'm just trying to have a conversation with you frank, open a little
> >>dialogue.  Sounds like I've offended or annoyed you in some way.
> >>
> >>Shel
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Well, to be quite honest with you, Shel, I did bristle a bit last
> >night when I read your initial comment, and I admit that I was being
> >petulant and maybe even a bit childish in my responses - for which I
> >apologize.
> >
> >What bothered me wasn't the "wasted frame" thing, although I disagree,
> >and I suppose I'd have simply preferred that you said you didn't like
> >the photo - with or without reasons.  What bothered me was (what I
> >perceived as) your sarcasm as follows:  "Print it big, mount it
> >nicely, display it with good lighting, and will become something
> >special for someone.  Oh, yeah, ask a lot of money for it as well."
> >
> >All that being said, I actually know why I like it, I just feel rather
> >uncomfortable talking about it, and besides, I really do think that
> >it's more important viewers form their own opinions as to why they
> >feel the way they do about a given piece.  However, I like it due to
> >the following (among other) reasons:
> >
> >Okay, it's blurry.  It's not a motion blur like a car, scooter, bike
> >or even a pedestrian going by.  It's me, the photographer, moving past
> >the scene that's causing the blur.  When I'm walking through a crowded
> >city, I don't make connections with most of those that I pass.  I only
> >see them peripherally.  I walk by them without noticing them, and they
> >don't notice me - as the fellow in the foreground of the photo seems
> >to be unaware of my presence.
> >
> >So, to me, this is about the disconnect of living and moving about in
> >a big city.  The irony that among millions of people, we actually have
> >fewer close relationships - we walk around with blinders on, oblivious
> >to what's around us.  It's as if we have sensory overload, and it all
> >becomes a blur - just like the picture.  Have you ever felt that way?
> >I have.
> >
> >The reason I don't like talking like that, is that I hate sounding
> >overblown, pretentious and all artsy about it - especially since it
> >really is just a blurry photo.  I didn't intend for it to come out
> >that way, it just did, and I saw the neg, and I thought it looked
> >pretty cool.  I wouldn't say it was an accident, but I wouldn't say
> >that I took the photo thinking it would look that way, either.
> >
> >It just is what it is.
> >
> >cheers,
> >frnk
> >
> >
> >
> 
>

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