My comment was not directed at this particular
green button vs true AE and open aperture
situation because they DIDN'T come up with
a software/firmware solution because without
the proper hardware to read the lens cam it
was and still is IMPOSSIBLE. They need the $5
HARDWARE part.

My comment was directed at your general
comment that software solutions are always
easier than hardware solutions. there are 
TONS AND TONS of things still done with
hardware because it's the easiest and most
cost effective way for some things. It all
depends specifically on the task (whats needed)..
That's all I was trying to communicate but
didn't apparently...

JCO

-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 10:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: more green button wars


Hardware is certainly harder to integrate. With hardware you have the 
software integration issues still (Since you've got to add support to 
the firmware for the hardware you've added) plus you need to find space 
for the hardware, ensure it doesn't interfere with any other hardware 
and ensure it is electrically compatible with the hardware, and this is 
something that essentially needs to be done with any fresh design (Even 
if the interface specs are identical, like the K mount). I'll pretty 
much guarantee that the implementation of the aperture coupling is 
different(Although similar) from model-line to model-line. You can't 
just drop the hardware from a MZ-6 into an *ist D and call it a day.

Software, especially when it's simply piggybacking on already existent 
functionality like the Green-Button solution, is much easier to add as 
long as you have sufficient storage and CPU power. The green-button fix 
is likely a module or two drawing functions from the DoF code and the 
pre-existing Green-button code to make it stop-down meter then set Tv 
(the latter portion of the code already existed as part of the Green 
Button functionality in M mode with fully-supported lenses)

And testing is a whole othe rball of wax.

Adding this capability to a design that lacks it is not nearly as simple 
as you seem to think. And the DSLR's are built off a platform that 
lacked this capability to begin with (The *ist, which shares most of its 
mechanicsw ith teh DSLR's, although the frames are substantially different).

-Adam


J. C. O'Connell wrote:

>Hardware is harder to integrate? Where do you
>come with this crap? Hardware or software
>difficulty depends on the task, sometimes
>hardware is much easier solution. The firmware
>"patch" is a bandaid not a fix.
>jco
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Adam Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 9:03 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: more green button wars
>
>
>While the lenses do exist, the number of owners looking to buy into
>Digital or modern film are a fairly small fraction of the current 
>market. Barely worth supporting, and not worth the extra engineering 
>required to integrate the extra functionality into the design (Hardware 
>is always harder to integrate than firmware, hence the firmware fix).
>
>-Adam
>
>
>  
>


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