John when I said: "if they will promise to participate in a reasonable and organised fashion."
"reasonable" meant exactly what you say, features that are truly felt to be important to a large number of users. The last thing we need to do is overwhelm them with a list of 100 "fantasy" items. This list is to be comprised of the 3-6 features we would be willing to spend more money for. I agree with the marketing/distribution comments. We should include these people when/if we distribute this list to "those who matter". Hope this made sense, it's 0205 hours here and only 1/2 my brain is awake. ;-) Don > -----Original Message----- > From: John Coyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 1:45 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Proposition and a Vote_ WAS_Petition to Pentax? > > > Don, I think it's worthwhile to let Pentax know where we > (probably the most > dedicated users of their cameras on the planet!) feel that the > current model > range falls short of an ideal. We must however bear in mind that the > company has been in the business of making cameras for a very > long time, and > were once innovators and market leaders: I don't think (MHO) that their > design skills are any less than before, but I do believe that their > marketing is poor, and seems to be subject to the choices > exercised by their > distributors: I have several thoughts about the way the Australian one > operates, which I have expressed before in this list. I wonder > too whether > the design decisions are also influenced by the distribution chain, and > whether that is feeding them the wrong messages. > I also think that Pentax are well capable of making high specification > cameras that will be the equal of any of the competition, but mere > manufacture and supply is not enough if the marketing leads to failure to > sell, and several contributors here have put their various fingers on the > weak areas there. > I'll be for contact with them, but I would hope that we can avoid > including > hopeless wish-fulfilment items! > > John Coyle > Brisbane, Australia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Don Sanderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 7:57 AM > Subject: Proposition and a Vote_ WAS_Petition to Pentax? > > > > OK, this has recieved more attention than I expected. > > > > Here's the proposition: > > I, Don the Iowanian ;-) will volunteer to keep track > > of this if there are enough people interested, AND > > if they will promise to participate in a reasonable > > and organised fashion. > > > > I will set up an e-mail address for this subject to keep > > it seperate from, and independent of, PDML traffic. > > > > I will establish a web page to report results as far as > > the "Wish List", voting results, and number/name of > > participants. > > > > I will take all suggestions from list members as to the > > planning and execution of this project. > > > > I will tally all responses and votes with no regard to my > > "Personal Wish List" except my own 1 list entry and my 1 > > vote per issue. > > > > This will, I expect, be a fairly complex job before it is > > finished so I will welcome volunteers and WILL NOT consider > > the project without a good level of interest from PDMLers. > > This is to include their family, friends, associates and > > anyone else you can convince to participate. > > > > All contributers will be required to provide enough personal > > information to make this a credible message to Pentax. > > Personal information WILL NOT be shared by me to anyone > > EXCEPT Pentax or their representitives and WILL NOT be used > > by me for any personal reasons. > > > > > > OK Folks, how vote you, Yea or Nay???? > > > > Don > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 3:00 PM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Petition to Pentax? (was Re: How Pentax Could Survive) > >> > >> > >> Now that is a sane and sensible idea. Perhaps we can start such > >> a petition > >> and submit it to Pentax. Imagine how impressed Pentax Corp would be to > >> receive an envelope from IOWA filled with suggestions from loyal Pentax > >> users from all over the world. I wonder what, if any, impact > such a list > >> would have, assuming it was presented in a reasonable and > >> organized manner. > >> > >> Shel > >> > >> > >> > [Original Message] > >> > From: Don Sanderson > >> > >> > Helpful would be a petition to Pentax, a "want list" > >> > so to speak. I don't see them organising that. > >> > As it is they're just bitchin', and I'm ignorin'. > >> > >> > > >
