In review, I see I missed something here
that still needs stating. If you and some
of your "smart" photographer friends don't
see the "gofer" part that makes it even
funnier so once again I will explain
it in more simpler terms for you. Because
the joke is over so you should know
the absurdity of it all if you still
havent recognized why its dumb slavery...

If this camera BODY had K/M AE support you 
wouldn't need to being doing ANY
of this dumb button pushing. The camera
wouldn't be burdening you with these
dumb stop down meter requests.
It not only slows you down if you
need to change fast, it's another
possible source of operator error
(humans make mistakes) for you to
have to remember to "SERVICE" the
cameras dumb requests. Cant you see
that having do something, like even
pressing a button, OVER AND OVER
and OVER again is really annoying and 
degrading when NONE of it would have
been necessary at all if he cheap K/M
cam sensor had been maintained?

I don't want to do something like
pushing green buttons every time I take
a picture with the camera IF ITS
NOT NECESSARY- and with K/M AE
support its not. I also don't want
to have to remember if I pushed
buttons or not or end up pushing
them twice to be sure the dumb
camera is informed. What you are
doing by pushing this button is
MANUALLY doing what the cam sensor
part did for you automatically In
the past. Why in the world would
any of your so called "smart"
photographer friends not see this
as a problem? Probably because
they think its necessary with
K/M lenses , well its not. Its
necessary only with this dumb
camera design... and I bet would they all
would gladly trade back to K/M AE
if given a real choice of
having to push buttons at
all or having to push them
forever needlessly....
CASE CLOSED 

- now think about
that every time you push the green
button for PENTAX like a monkey boy
slave who doesn't deserve basic exposure automation
that you used to have for 30 years.....
JCO

-----Original Message-----
From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 8:27 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Camera engineering ( GREEN BUTTON has just officially DIED...)



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J. C. O'Connell"
Subject: RE: Camera engineering ( GREEN BUTTON has just officially DIED...)


> NO my defintion of a monkey
> boy (YOU) is a person who settles
> for a camera that treats them
> like a brainless "gofer" instead
> of an intelligent photograper. Pushing buttons
> that don't need pushing over and over is like
> willingly taking punishment for somebody
> elses stupidity or greed. In your case
> its not that bad because you don't even
> realize your being punished because
> they have managed to brainwash you into
> thinking the button pushing is a good thing
> for you. I want a camera that has the good features
> we have had for the last 30 years with these
> lenses, not suddenly go back to tedious non
> computerized (hell, non electronic) exposure and metering modes FOR NO 
> REASON...KM can still do these things and very easily.

Gee JC, if you'd have READ THE THREAD, you would have read about my K/M lens

usage.
If you read other peoples posts on the subject, you would realize that there

are a lot of very talented and very smart photographers on this list who 
don't think this "lack" in Pentax DSLRs is a problem.
If you had the brains of a gnat, you wouldn't intimate that the metering in 
any mode on a DSLR is non computerized or non electronic. Instead, you bleat
about a camera you have never used, and you continue to 
insult people on list, now calling pretty much every Pentax DSLR on this 
list a brainless gopher.
Do you really see this as the behaviour of an adult?

William Robb





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