In review, I see I missed something here that still needs stating. If you and some of your "smart" photographer friends don't see the "gofer" part that makes it even funnier so once again I will explain it in more simpler terms for you. Because the joke is over so you should know the absurdity of it all if you still havent recognized why its dumb slavery...
If this camera BODY had K/M AE support you wouldn't need to being doing ANY of this dumb button pushing. The camera wouldn't be burdening you with these dumb stop down meter requests. It not only slows you down if you need to change fast, it's another possible source of operator error (humans make mistakes) for you to have to remember to "SERVICE" the cameras dumb requests. Cant you see that having do something, like even pressing a button, OVER AND OVER and OVER again is really annoying and degrading when NONE of it would have been necessary at all if he cheap K/M cam sensor had been maintained? I don't want to do something like pushing green buttons every time I take a picture with the camera IF ITS NOT NECESSARY- and with K/M AE support its not. I also don't want to have to remember if I pushed buttons or not or end up pushing them twice to be sure the dumb camera is informed. What you are doing by pushing this button is MANUALLY doing what the cam sensor part did for you automatically In the past. Why in the world would any of your so called "smart" photographer friends not see this as a problem? Probably because they think its necessary with K/M lenses , well its not. Its necessary only with this dumb camera design... and I bet would they all would gladly trade back to K/M AE if given a real choice of having to push buttons at all or having to push them forever needlessly.... CASE CLOSED - now think about that every time you push the green button for PENTAX like a monkey boy slave who doesn't deserve basic exposure automation that you used to have for 30 years..... JCO -----Original Message----- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 8:27 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Camera engineering ( GREEN BUTTON has just officially DIED...) ----- Original Message ----- From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: Camera engineering ( GREEN BUTTON has just officially DIED...) > NO my defintion of a monkey > boy (YOU) is a person who settles > for a camera that treats them > like a brainless "gofer" instead > of an intelligent photograper. Pushing buttons > that don't need pushing over and over is like > willingly taking punishment for somebody > elses stupidity or greed. In your case > its not that bad because you don't even > realize your being punished because > they have managed to brainwash you into > thinking the button pushing is a good thing > for you. I want a camera that has the good features > we have had for the last 30 years with these > lenses, not suddenly go back to tedious non > computerized (hell, non electronic) exposure and metering modes FOR NO > REASON...KM can still do these things and very easily. Gee JC, if you'd have READ THE THREAD, you would have read about my K/M lens usage. If you read other peoples posts on the subject, you would realize that there are a lot of very talented and very smart photographers on this list who don't think this "lack" in Pentax DSLRs is a problem. If you had the brains of a gnat, you wouldn't intimate that the metering in any mode on a DSLR is non computerized or non electronic. Instead, you bleat about a camera you have never used, and you continue to insult people on list, now calling pretty much every Pentax DSLR on this list a brainless gopher. Do you really see this as the behaviour of an adult? William Robb

