John,
Because you seem firmly convinced of your position, please clarify for
me in what way digital provides you, "a much better picture-taking
experience". At the moment of capture?
This is in the serious hope that I'll read something other than
"immediate feed back".

Jack



--- John Forbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Tom,
> 
> The continual negativism on this forum doesn't make it a better
> place, and  
> it certainly doesn't HELP Pentax.  What is does is to distort
> people's  
> assessment of Pentax's true position.
> 
> You wouldn't think so from some of the posts, but Pentax is a
> profitable  
> company. It clearly went through a hard time when it was forced to
> abandon  
> the MZ-D, and I personally think it has bounced back from that rather
>  
> well.  A company with less financial muscle, and less commitment to  
> photography, would have given up then.  The fact that it didn't
> speaks  
> volumes.
> 
> As the more level-headed members of this site point out, the current
> DSLR  
> range (the D, incidentally, is still available) meets the needs of
> most  
> people, even most PDML members.  Yes, it would be nice to have extra
> bells  
> and whistles, but most of us don't actually need them, and many of us
>  
> wouldn't pay very much for them. That's not to deny that there are
> some  
> photographers whose needs are clearly not well served by the present 
> 
> line-up.  However, they are a small minority, and with luck (and a
> little  
> time), the D replacement will address their problems.
> 
> It is noteworthy that there are now very few list members left who
> have  
> not bought a Pentax DSLR.  Clearly, there must be something good
> about  
> them.
> 
> In my view the Pentax DSLRs provide a much better picture-taking  
> experience than any 35mm film camera, and I expect my two D bodies to
> be  
> active for some time to come, whatever the future of Pentax.  That
> means I  
> will continue to buy lenses.
> 
> John
> 
> On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 20:20:45 +0100, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > In answer to your last question, yes I've perceived that to be the
> case  
> > sometimes, but not with the Chongwagon comment.  However, it's not
> all  
> > whining and negativism.  Some of it's an ongoing analysis and, yes,
>  
> > speculation regarding the future of the brand, and therefore the
> wisdom  
> > of future potential 'investments'.
> >
> > I single-handedly, and others who tend to share the same views,
> will not  
> > make those views come true.  Pentax, having marketed and produced
> in the  
> > manner they have, are responsible for their image, ranking in the  
> > marketplace.
> >
> > Tom C.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Reply-To: [email protected]
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...
> >> Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 19:38:16 +0100
> >>
> >> Which is a pretty big market if you think about it, in MF terms.
> >>
> >> Why don't you post a lot more negative messages about Pentax? 
> That  
> >> way  you'll make your worst fears come true.
> >>
> >> It seems to me that in life we need a certain amount of optimism. 
>  
> >> People  who get things done are optimists; people who whinge and  
> >> bellyache are not  nice to know and tend not to amount to much.
> >>
> >> Have you noticed that the most prolific posters of pictures on
> this  
> >> site,  and the best photographers, do not as a rule jump on the  
> >> Chongwagon.  They  just get on with life and take pictures.
> >>
> >> John
> >>
> >> On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 18:33:47 +0100, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yep.  I can't see the market for a 645D being too much more than 
> 
> >>> owners  of a film Pentax 645 system.
> >>>
> >>> Tom C.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>> Reply-To: [email protected]
> >>>> To: [email protected]
> >>>> Subject: Re: Pentax Future? What's next for Pentax...
> >>>> Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 10:45:48 +1000
> >>>>
> >>>> On 30 Sep 2005 at 15:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> > Formats are only names now. A 645D would probably be no larger
> or   
> >>>> heavier than
> >>>> > the current Canon D1s Mark II, and Pentax has already said
> it's   
> >>>> sensor won't be
> >>>> > true 645 dimensions. Most prosumers cameras and some pro
> models  
> >>>> will  probably
> >>>> > remain APS-C. It's all just semantics. Paul
> >>>>
> >>>> The difference is that in reality by the time the 645D comes to 
> 
> >>>> market  (if at
> >>>> all) there will likely be very little advantage between a top
> end  
> >>>> Canon  DSLR
> >>>> kit and the 645D technically. And if I had to buy a new set of  
> >>>> lenses  (which I
> >>>> would if I had to buy a 645D to get anything remotely top end
> out of   
> >>>> Pentax)
> >>>> I'd definitely buy into the Canon system and I can't imagine
> other   
> >>>> people in my
> >>>> position not doing the same.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Rob Studdert
> >>>> HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
> >>>> Tel +61-2-9554-4110
> >>>> UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
> >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/
> >>>> Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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