Marnie,
Good comments.  I was too harsh in my assessment of PAW and PESO.  It
comes from my frustration at trying to follow and comment on these
photos.
Regards,  Bob S.

On 10/9/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In a message dated 10/9/2005 6:23:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I'm not learning much from the PAW and PESO photos and the
> contributors are often the same small group of folks.  I wish we had
> wider participation from the group and a more meaningful discussion of
> the photos.
>
> Regards,  Bob S.
> ===========
> I learn something by sharing and by getting comments on my photos. I always
> have. If nothing else I find out which ones struck chords (or didn't) in 
> others.
>
> Some people's bar maybe too high for other people's photos. We are all at
> different skill levels.
>
> I think, however, it takes guts to share one's photos. Unless, that is, one
> is highly confident about them. And sometimes it takes a lot of guts.
>
> When I have time I try to comment. But I don't always have something
> illuminating to say. I try to make comments specific tot that particular 
> photo, but
> sometimes it's just an "I like it." Why bother to even say that? So the person
> sharing the photo knows someone looked at it.
>
> I enjoy the PESOs, and get something out of them (when I have time to look)
> but I don't see how the bandwith could handle a great many more.
>
> Seems to me, the PUG suffers by contrast. It doesn't get ENOUGH comments.
> Like ERN thinking others think she's mediocre, while she definitely is not,
> because she was not getting any PUG feedback.
>
> Maybe if more of us commit to making sure to make some PUG comments that will
> allevate some of those problems.
>
> I think meaningful discussion is hard to come by when it requires time and
> effort and one is trying to keep up with a busy list and quite possibly a busy
> life. Sometimes some photo strikes a chord and it happens, but usually all
> people have time for is a swift assessment.
>
> Of course, you could add some meaningful discussion yourself. :-)
>
> The secret is, which is not a very big secret, when I react to other people's
> photos and make comments they usually turn around (at some point) and make
> comments on my photos in turn. If I make NO comments on others photos I don't
> blame them at all for not making any comments on mine. That is why sometimes 
> the
> pool of photo showers and commentators remains small.
>
> For instance, in this last round Paul, Mark, Boris, Cotty, Glen, sorry if I
> am forgetting people, but those immediately jump to the top of my head, all
> made comments on my photos. (Ignoring you for the moment.) And I have 
> commented
> on their photos. So I would sort of "expect" some of those people to comment
> now and then on mine. (Not positive about Glen, but think I have.)
>
> Turn around is fair play.
>
> But actually it seems to me the pool of sharers and commentators has
> increased quite a bit over the last six months.
>
> And some people would rather talk about equipment than photos. For instance,
> I am not that big a camera techie so I tend to focus more on the photos. I
> don't have much to add to most equipment or techie threads.
>
> And, finally, well, you have to take pictures to show pictures.
>
> Duh, Marnie aka Doe ;-)
>
>

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