In a message dated 10/12/2005 5:58:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
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I think that the first crop is the best of the three. The second one is 
too tight and the third one seems to be simply a fragment really. Also 
the third one seems to be too small a crop so that the limits of your 
digital camera or scanned negative start to show.

Anyway, the first crop is a sensible work. It is all full of 
reflections. And the pose in which the guy is sitting is that of being 
self absorbed in some thought. So now it all comes together nicely to 
me. It is about reflections of (city) life.

Technically the presentation is perfect. There is nothing I would think 
I would add here. This is a finished piece.

As for getting close to your subject. I think it is a matter of practice 
and style. The fact that some PDML's more prominent people shooters ;-) 
(I mean Godfrey, Shel, and Frank (in no particular order, so that no one 
gets offended ;-) ) ) get closer to their subjects does not mean that 
that's *the only* way to do it.

I've seen people working with 70-300 zoom quite extended (in film 
though, no crop factor) and getting good images too. For example, the 
longer lens with good bokeh allows you to get the third dimension - that 
of depth. It may be worth it.

I think that whatever subject one is working with, one should know the 
tools at hand. I think I would agree with what Bob W said:

> I don't think street photography does require you to provide 
intimacy. > If it requires anything, it is that you treat the subject
> appropriately, and this is true for all photography.

So, Marnie, let's just keep practicing. I know I will ;-).

Good stuff and very good discussion.

Boris
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Thanks for your comments, Boris. Yes I do like that the reflections show bett
er in the first crop. So I will probably have two versions of it.

Well, as for taking pictures of people on the street in the future, not sure. 
I did notice I shot mainly people's backs. The interesting thing is some 
people liked some of those back shots. Now, shooting people's backs, that I CAN 
do. Hehehehe.

Thanks for your thoughts.

Marnie aka Doe :-)

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