Your dates are interesting, Paul. According to what we tended to learn in American History back in grade school when I was a kid. America was settled by the Puritans in 1620. All the people who came here before that didn't count, I guess. Being descended from one of those New Amsterdamers you mentioned I always resented that. But unfortunately New Amsterdam was settled in 1624. And you say Middletown was settled across from New Amsterdam in 1615. Had a time machine did they?

Jamestown, Virginia was settled in 1607, after an earlier attempted Virginia colony (1584) disappeared completely. And of course there were Spanish colonies (Saint Augustine for instance) even earlier than that (1565). So the Puritans (pilgrims) of Plymouth Rock were not the first after all just the ones with the best publicity.

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Paul Stenquist wrote:

That stands to reason. The Scots and the English were at each other's throats over here long before the revolution. The town in Jersey where I lived for a dozen years, originally Aberdeen, was founded in 1687 by Scots fleeing their English neighbors in Middletown, New Jersey. Interestingly enough, Middletown was founded in 1615 across a large bay from the settlement known as New Amsterdam. It just never quite grew at the pace that its neighbor did. Just goes to show you that which side of the bay you're on can make a difference. Of course New Amemsterdam is now New York city. Middletown is still Middletown, and it's population is around 30,000. Aberdeen is now the village of Matawan, population 12,000, and it remains part of Aberdeen Township. Matawan is an Indian (native American) name. The Scots had followed an Indian trail west on their way out of Middletown. Matawan is located where two Indian trails crossed.
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On Oct 21, 2005, at 3:17 AM, Cotty wrote:

On 20/10/05, John Forbes, discombobulated, unleashed:

I hear what you're saying, but guess what.....

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Aegean/2653/mark_of_the_scots_usa.htm


This explains rather more than I had feared.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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