On Nov 1, 2005, at 11:36 AM, Lucas Rijnders wrote:

On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 20:03:13 +0100, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Nov 1, 2005, at 10:10 AM, Adam Maas wrote:

On the D however it's HyperProgram, and it jumps you into either Aperture Priority or Shutter Priority depending on which you shift (Tv wheel shifts into Shutter Priority, Av Wheel into Aperture Priority) until you kick it back into Program with the green button. This is IMHO superior to the standard Program Shift.

I still can't quite get understand the advantage. The KM A2 works the same way that Pentax seems to label "HyperProgram", the Canon 10D works the more traditional single-wheel program shift. With the Canon, if in Program mode, I can get either the aperture or the shutter speed I want by rolling one wheel, and I return to standard operation by rolling the same control back. On the KM or Pentax, I can do the same but need to be aware of which wheel I turn as well as what's changing in the viewfinder display, and press yet another control to return to standard operation.

What's the advantage?

Not having used 'normal' program shift I'm only guessing, but:

1) With HyP, you control the parameter you want to control (speed or dof) directly. With program shift, you change 'pairs': that might be less intuïtive?

Well, as you shift one way or the other with the Canon's wheel, both values change. Just as they do with the KM ... or Pentax ... right? Doesn't really matter which control wheel you turn.

2) With HyP there is alomst no need to change modes on the camera anymore, while Program Shift is different enough from Av and Tv to make mode changes neccessary. You could ealily call that a disadvantage as well...

Is it a plus that having HyperProgram you essentially have lost one type of exposure mode control? You have Program, and either of Av or Tv depending upon which wheel you turn. You change between them fluidly ... but then if you had Program-shift like the Canon, you simply pay attention to which of the two parameters you want to hit a certain value.

3) I *think* that Program shift will follow the (shifted) program line when the light changes, and possibly ruin your carefully selected speed or dof. HyP will keep the required parameter (A or T) constant, and only adjust the other. I think this is the most important difference?

That's about the biggest difference. I don't really see that it's all that important. If aperture or exposure time are that important, I'd likely just use Tv or Av instead.

So the biggest difference, to me, is simply that it allows shifting between P, Av and Tv without turning the mode selector.

Godfrey




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