I'm sure with your recent workshop, that you have some great ideas and
pointers.  Seems like, many times, I am not quite in a circumstance to
be able to take full advantage of the situation.  In this case, on our
way out of Monterey (under a time constraint), my daughter really
wanted to stop by the beach for a minute.  So I took the camera and
lens I happen to have with me along.  Knowing I had to drive for about
4 hours right as we left, I was not too keen to get all dirty.  Then
there was the dog.  He was having a grand old time running up and down
the long stretch of beach chasing the birds away.  So I didn't have
much time to take shots of the birds and was too wimpy to get any
lower to the ground.  Perhaps one of these days I'll go out with
intentions of shooting the sea birds and actually get a bit more
prepared.

I do appreciate your comments, knowledge and experience on the
subject.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Monday, November 7, 2005, 1:01:18 PM, you wrote:


C> ----- Original Message ----- 
C> From: "Bruce Dayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


>>I have cropped it more like a pano to provide the emphasis that you
>> describe.
>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2427a.htm
>>
>> Here is the original:
>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_2427.htm


C> For me, groups of birds are always a challange like this.  I have a hard
C> time positioning the group in the frame.

C> The crop works better for me by making th train of birds seem longer.  I
C> think there is too much contrast and not enough detail in the birds though.

>> As to perspective, I'm a wimp, I was already as low as I
>> could go without sprawling out on the sand.

C> That's half the fun!

C> Christian 



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