Erudtion?

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Cheers,
 Bob 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Forbes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 05 December 2005 21:37
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Language - Britian, England, or United Kingdom?
> 
> Coming late to this, but as Bob W's normal erudtion seems to 
> have taken a
> holiday:
> 
> British Isles (n) - a small archipelago off the North West 
> coast of Europe.
> 
> Great Britain (GB) (n) - an island, the largest (hence the 
> word "great") of the British Isles.  It contains the nations 
> of England, Scotland and Wales.  The term has no other 
> correct meaning (Winston Churchill, please note).
> 
> Ireland (n) - second largest island of the British Isles.  It 
> contains the country of Eire (the independent Republic of 
> Ireland) and the pseudo-nation of Northern Ireland.  The 
> separation (in 1917) occurred largely as a result of 
> religious differences.  The working classes are keen to 
> observe the differences (there are separate national soccer 
> teams and terrorist organisations), whilst the middle classes 
> aren't (at rugby, one team represents all Ireland).
> 
> UK (n) - a country, in full the United Kingdom of Great 
> Britain and Northern Ireland.
> 
> English (adj) - pertaining to the nation of England and its 
> people.  Their nationality, however, is British, not English.
> 
> English (n) - the language of England, and main language of 
> the British Isles.  Dialects are found world-wide.
> 
> British (adj) - a term which until the independence of Eire 
> related to the whole of the British Isles.  Now it relates 
> only to the UK.
> 
> Britain (n) - a synonym for the UK.  Some people who should 
> know better (including The Economist and W Churchill) 
> erroneously use Great Britain when they mean Britain.
> 
> Irish (adj) - pertaining to Ireland (the island), OR to Eire 
> (esp. as regards nationality).
> 
> Northern Irish (adj) - pertaining to Northern Ireland (but 
> the nationality of the people is British, and their language English).
> 
> Irish AKA Gaelic or Erse (n) - original language of Ireland, 
> still spoken in remote parts.
> 
> Scots Gaelic (n) - variant of Irish, spoken in highland 
> Scotland before English, still spoken in remote parts like 
> Lewis and Harris (whence Harris Tweed).
> 
> Lowland Scots (n) - a Scottish variant of English, known 
> world-wide through the vernacular poetry (eg: Auld Lang Syne) 
> of Robert Burns, possibly the world's most quoted poet.  Now 
> defunct (Burns and the language, but the poetry lives on).
> 
> Welsh (adj) - of Wales and its people.  Their nationality is British.
> 
> Welsh (n) - the original language of Wales, one of the few 
> minority languages to be increasing in popularity (mainly so 
> that English holiday-makers in Wales can't understand what is 
> being said about them).
> 
> The terms "UK" and "British" are normally all you require to 
> denote the country that is ruled nominally by Queen Elizabeth 
> II (head of the British branch of an old German family), and 
> actually by Tony Blair.  "England"  
> and "English" should generally be avoided, unless you know 
> what you are doing.
> 
> Simple, really.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:37:13 -0000, Bob W 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Wales does not feature in the name 'United Kingdom of Great Britain 
> > and Northern Ireland' because, as I mentioned in an earlier 
> email, it 
> > was annexed into England several hundred years before the union of 
> > England and Scotland. By a Welshman, as it happens.
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> >  Bob
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Bob Shell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: 26 November 2005 19:13
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: Language - Britian, England, or United Kingdom?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Nov 26, 2005, at 2:05 PM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
> >>
> >> >> UK is the United Kingdom, which is the name of the
> >> political entity
> >> >> consisting of England, Scotland and Northern Ireland, 
> so you must 
> >> >> turn the
> >> >
> >> > Wales?
> >>
> >>
> >> Yes, as in "Prince of...."  Kids here invariably get it 
> wrong and say 
> >> Prince of Whales.  Now there is a title to be aspired to!
> >>
> >> Bob
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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