Yes, it is another government monopoly. Someone sitting in a cell is a prisoner, someone forced to work without pay against their will is a slave. It is funny to me how changing the name of something is supposed to make it different. Today someone taking a paying job away from someone who needs the money is called a volunteer, we used to call them scabs, for example.

graywolf
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Bob W wrote:

Don't you know the difference between slaves and convicted prisoners?

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Bob
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From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 December 2005 23:05
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Update: The fur fellow's feet

Well, if you think that there is a right not to be enslaved, I suggest you go check out any prison industry. Here in NC you can see that right violated on the highways. I assume that people working under a gun are not employees. About the only right that actually exists is the right to die (freedoom), and most states have laws trying to eliminate that.

graywolf
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Bob W wrote:

First, rights do not entail responsibilities. A right is a
right. For
example, you have a right not to be enslaved. This right
comes with no
strings attached whatsoever. If you disagree with this, perhaps you could tell me what responsibilities you might neglect that would justify your enslavement.

Second, I suspect you have not really examined the question
of animal
rights. The phrase itself is unfortunately rather misleading. The standard argument in favour of animal rights makes it quite
clear that
the rights in question are not the same as those accorded to people, such as the right to vote. The crucial thing is the right to equal consideration. If you accept that animals have interests and moral status (and perhaps you don't accept this), then this
argument claims
that you should give equal moral weight to the comparable
interests of
animals and people unless there is a relevant difference
between them that justifies unequal consideration.
The Australian philosopher Peter Singer expressed this in his book "Animal Liberation". There is a summary of the argument here: http://www.utilitarian.org/texts/alm.html. It is dated 1985, so the examples are out of date, but the argument still holds. It is worth reading the essay all the way
through. For a
more detailed examination, read the book.

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Bob



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