Even with the pool 'shrinkage'? Wow! Jack
--- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nah, she was back at her window the next time. Must have seen > something > she liked :-). > On Jan 10, 2006, at 8:00 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: > > >> And if someone is spying on me, let them spy away. I have nothing > to > >> hide. > >> Paul > > > > Is that what your neighbor said? > > > > Sorry Paul I couldn't resist..... > > > > Kenneth Waller > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Stenquist" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded > > > > > >> Is that supposed to be news? Remember how the dems whined after > 9/11 > >> that the government had failed "to connect the dots?" Remember how > > >> the loyal opposition complained that the administration hadn't > done > >> enough to protect us against an attack? You can't have it both > ways. > >> And if someone is spying on me, let them spy away. I have nothing > to > >> hide. > >> Paul > >> On Jan 10, 2006, at 5:28 PM, Bob Shell wrote: > >>> Read below: > >>> > >>> On Jan 10, 2006, at 4:44 PM, E.R.N. Reed wrote: > >>> > >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Uh, there's no spy camera in my house. Checked just this > morning. > >>>>> And the only time I ever caught my neighbor spying on me was > when > >>>>> I went skinny dipping in the pool. > >>>>> Paul > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Same here, except for the pool part, since I don't have one. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> -------------- Original message ---------------------- > >>>>> From: Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Jan 10, 2006, at 12:37 PM, Tom C wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> In that case why not put spy cameras in everyone's homes so > the > >>>>>>> government can watch? Prevent the uncommitted crime from > >>>>>>> occurring. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Encourage public schools to pry into personal matters. > Encourage > >>>>>>> school children to tell when their parents' personal views > >>>>>>> differ from those popularly accepted. Encourage neighbor to > spy > >>>>>>> upon neighbor. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I don't know about you, but that's not where I want to live. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> We're already living there, I'm afraid. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Bob > >>> > >>> > >>> Source: Raiders News Service > >>> > >>> http://www.raidersnewsupdate.com/lead-story299.htm > >>> > >>> January 08, 2006 > >>> > >>> > >>> The NSA Spy Engine: Echelon > >>> > >>> By Jason Leopold > >>> t r u t h o u t - Investigative Report > >>> > >>> A clandestine National Security Agency spy program code-named > >>> Echelon was likely responsible for tapping into the emails, > >>> telephone calls and facsimiles of thousands of average American > >>> citizens over the past four years in its effort to identify > >>> people suspected of communicating with al-Qaeda terrorists, > >>> according to half-a-dozen current and former intelligence > >>> officials from the NSA and FBI. > >>> > >>> The existence of the program has been known for some time. > >>> Echelon was developed in the 1970s primarily as an American- > >>> British intelligence sharing system to monitor foreigners - > >>> specifically, during the Cold War, to catch Soviet spies. But > >>> sources said the spyware, operated by satellite, is the means by > >>> which the NSA eavesdropped on Americans when President Bush > >>> secretly authorized the agency to do so in 2002. > >>> > >>> Another top-secret program code-named Tempest, also operated by > >>> satellite, is capable of reading computer monitors, cash > >>> registers and automatic teller machines from as far away as a > >>> half-mile and is being used to keep a close eye on an untold > >>> number of American citizens, the sources said, pointing to a > >>> little known declassified document that sheds light on the > >>> program. > >>> > >>> Echelon has been shrouded in secrecy for years. A special report > >>> prepared by the European Parliament in the late 1990s disclosed > >>> explosive details about the covert program when it alleged that > >>> Echelon was being used to spy on two foreign defense contractors > >>> - the European companies Airbus Industrie and Thomson-CSF - as > >>> well as sifting through private emails, industrial files and > >>> cell phones of foreigners. > >>> > >>> The program is part of a multinational spy effort that includes > >>> intelligence agencies in Canada, Britain, New Zealand and > >>> Australia, also known as the Echelon Alliance, which is > >>> responsible for monitoring different parts of the world. > >>> > >>> The NSA has never publicly admitted that Echelon exists, but the > >>> program has been identified in declassified government > >>> documents. Republican and Democratic lawmakers have long > >>> criticized the program and have, in the past, engaged in fierce > >>> debate with the intelligence community over Echelon because of > >>> the ease with which it can spy on Americans without any > >>> oversight from the federal government. > >>> > >>> Mike Frost, who spent 20 years as a spy for the CSE, the > >>> Canadian equivalent of the National Security Agency, told the > >>> news program 60 Minutes in February 2000 how Echelon routinely > >>> eavesdrops on many average people at any given moment and how, > >>> depending on what you say either in an email or over the > >>> telephone, you could end up on an NSA watch list. > >>> > >>> "While I was at CSE, a classic example: A lady had been to a > >>> school play the night before, and her son was in the school play > >>> and she thought he did a -- a lousy job. Next morning, she was > >>> talking on the telephone to her friend, and she said to her > >>> friend something like this, 'Oh, Danny really bombed last > >>> night,' just like that," Frost said. "The computer spit that > >>> conversation out. The analyst that was looking at it was not too > >>> sure about what the conversation was referring to, so erring on > >>> the side of caution, he listed that lady and her phone number in > >>> the database as a possible terrorist." > >>> > >>> Ironically, during the first Bush administration, a woman named > >>> Margaret Newsham, who worked for Lockheed Martin and was > >>> stationed at the NSA's Menwith Hill listening post in Yorkshire, > >>> England, told Congressional investigators that she had firsthand > >>> knowledge that the NSA was illegally spying on American > >>> citizens. > >>> > >>> While a Congressional committee did look into Newsham's > >>> allegations, it never published a report. However, a British > >>> investigative reporter named Duncan Campbell got hold of some > >>> committee documents and discovered that Newsham was telling the > >>> truth. One of the documents described a program called "Echelon" > >>> that would monitor and analyze "civilian communications into the > >>> 21st century." > >>> > >>> As of 2000, sources said, the NSA had Echelon listening posts > >>> located in: Menwith Hill, Britain; Morwenstow, Britain; Bad > >>> Aibling, Germany; Geraldton Station, Australia; Shoal Bay, > >>> Australia; Waihopai, New Zealand; Leitrim, Canada; Misawa, > >>> Japan; Yakima Firing Center, Seattle; Sugar Grove, Virginia. > >>> > >>> A January 1, 2001, story in the magazine Popular Mechanics > >>> disclosed details of how Echelon works. > >>> > >>> "The electronic signals that Echelon satellites and listening > >>> posts capture are separated into two streams, depending upon > >>> whether the communications are sent with or without encryption," > >>> the magazine reported. "Scrambled signals are converted into > >>> their original language, and then, along with selected "clear" > >>> messages, are checked by a piece of software called Dictionary. > >>> There are actually several localized "dictionaries." The UK > >>> version, for example, is packed with names and slang used by the > >>> Irish Republican Army. Messages with trigger words are > >>> dispatched to their respective agencies." > >>> > >>> Electronic signals are captured and analyzed through a series of > >>> supercomputers known as dictionaries, which are programmed to > >>> search through each communication for targeted addresses, words, > >>> phrases, and sometimes individual voices. The communication is > >>> then sent to the National Security Agency for review. Some of > >>> the more common sample key words that the NSA flags are: > >>> terrorism, plutonium, bomb, militia, gun, explosives, Iran, > >>> Iraq, sources said. > >>> > >>> Because Echelon can easily spy on Americans without any > >>> oversight or detection, and because Echelon covers such a wide > >>> spectrum of communication, many current and former NSA officials > >>> said that it's likely the agency used its satellites to target > >>> Americans, Mark Levin, a former chief of staff to Edwin Meese > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
