government may represent the people, however, it's (at least here in us) a
quite separate, effectively, incorporated entity, that can make money, sue,
be sued... i cannot sue the people of connecticut, but i definitely
can do that to
the state of connecticut. e.g, when i am a  victim,  and the state
fails to protect me,
the state can lose quite a bit of $$$.

there's plenty of conflict of interests, since the police, prosecutors
and judges are
all state employees. i wonder how would anyone feel if cases
"Microsoft vs. X" were
handled entirely my Microsoft legal depertment?

it is *somewhat* balanced by the presence of jury in criminal courts,
but  civil ones are
far from being impartial.

and as far as election goes... guess what: those who are really
affected by the system
(convicts) cannot vote. and those who can, couldn't care less, since
it doesn't touch them
directly (we all want to be *tough* on crime, don't we? that is, as
long as we are on this side of
the bars).

best,
mishka

On 1/12/06, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The justice system and the penal system are set up and run by the
> government, which represents The People, and which is elected by The
> People.  In the US, criminal prosecutions are in the style of cause
> "The State vs. John Doe" or even (in some states) "The People vs. John
> Doe".  The prosecutor represents society at large.  Jury trials are
> before a "jury of peers", who represent society at large.
>
> Further, if the police, prosecutors and court system are incompetent,
> over-aggressive, or corrupt, the ultimate solution rests with the
> electors to bring in a government which will reform the system, and
> sweep out such evils.
>
> Keith, I know that saying that we're all complicit and responsible for
> wrongful convictions is a bit remote, but I guess that I was kind of
> throwing a bit of political theory into the discussion <g>.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
>
>
> --
> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
>
>

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