Doug,
Thanks for the response describing your diligent manor of list
monitoring. Fully appreciate your efforts. Even those I can only
imagine.
This happens to be the first series of such incidents in my 6-7 year
subscription. Maybe we have a lurker who has passed away, (Heaven
forbid).

Jack

--- Doug Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Jack Davis wrote:
> > I thought such was the basis for being "unsubscribed".(?)
> > 
> > Jack
> > 
> > --- Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>It's not advertising spam, it's bounce messages -- every message I
> >>send to the list I get back from this one guy's mailserver, telling
> >>me not to e-mail him anymore because his inbox is full.
> >>
> >>-Aaron
> >>
> 
> It's an inexact science. I receive around a thousand bounce messages
> a 
> day, along with quarantine notifications, out-of-office replies,
> etc., 
> all piled up to be 1500 or so...and like I told Bob, the grifante
> stuff 
> didn't stand out as excessive.
> 
> Most days I give the bounce folder a cursury glance to see if
> anything 
> jumps out at me. If it does, I consider unsubbing the account, or put
> it 
> on the back burner to see if the situation is temporary.
> 
> If the bounces are coming from a regular on the list, I generally
> assume 
> that person will notice the too-full mailbox and rectify. There are,
> of 
> course, notable exceptions to this..(cough*marnie*cough)... and the
> way 
> they figure out they are over quota is they get unsubbed.
> 
> If the bounces are coming from a lurker, I have a shorter leash. It's
> 
> probably unfair, but what the heck.
> 
> Now, if your mail server begins sending me messages that it cannot 
> deliver your email, and that it will continue trying to do so for
> five 
> days, be prepared for your ears to begin burning, because I'll be 
> cursing. That's because, even if I go ahead and unsub your account,
> your 
> mail server will still generate a bounce message every time it tries
> to 
> deliver each message, multiple times over the next five days. This is
> to 
> be avoided.
> 
> Some days, if I have a spare few minutes, I'll do some weeding. This 
> means I can take a deeper look at the bounce folder to get rid of 
> accounts that have too many bounces.
> 
> What's too many? I dunno. I used to have a hard ceiling, actually had
> it 
> coded into the software, to bounce automatically, but I kept upping
> the 
> ceiling in order to keep from having to answer all the "Why did I get
> 
> unsubbed?" messages I got, and to keep Mark Roberts on the list for
> more 
> than five minutes at a time. I finally got rid of the ceiling
> altogether 
> so I could decide on things case by case.
> 
> And that's where it stands now.
> 
> 
> 
> 


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