On Feb 8, 2006, at 10:59 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

On 8 Feb 2006 at 21:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In a message dated 2/8/2006 6:24:07 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If anything Marco and/or Pentax Canada owes those who took the time to inquire and/or contribute an apology for not having their act together.

Tom C.
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You're beginning to approach JCO's record for remaking the same point over
and over.

Except he's correct.

Unfortunately, Rob, Tom is not correct. With all due respect, and with the extra-added reminder that anyone on here is free to hold his or her own opinion, what some less-than-respectful members of this list have done is pretty much destroy what I, and a number of others here, have been working to achieve for several years now, which is a relationship with Pentax based on mutual respect and civility.

I have personally visited Pentax headquarters in Colorado, and had conversations with many employees leading toward this relationship. I have sat at a conference table showing off the PUG on a big digital projector and talked up the list and its members as an invaluable resource of opinion, both good and bad, about the Pentax product line. I have considered it my honor to carry the PDML banner wherever I thought it necessary, from GFM to camera shops and workshops and into the Pentax USA offices.

And I am not alone. Other members of this list have developed ties to Pentax reps and other employees, carrying that same banner.

It has hurt me to read the hateful things that have been said about Pentax employees over my years here. These are hard-working, regular people with families, who are doing the best job they can, and when they are vilified, attacked personally, it's been all I could do to hold my tongue.

I was here long before Aaron left. I remember his first faltering steps in his business. When Frank forwarded Aaron's email from Marco, I trusted that it was legit, and when the follow-up came, that any questions could be sent to Marco's direct email address at Pentax Canada, it sealed the deal. Here was a regular guy, asking other regular guys, to show off a few photos, at no risk whatsoever.

And then, to have the whole thing blow up because some list members apparently don't have the good sense and respect to write civil inquiries just shocks and saddens me. Adding insult to injury, now there is a hue and cry that someone Pentax Canada owes them an apology. No. No. No.

I don't call anyone a jackass and then demand an apology for my doing so.

The actions of a few members have given the PDML a black eye, and I am ashamed of it. Someone owes the list an apology, and it damn sure isn't Pentax Canada.

Doug Brewer
List Guy

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