On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 22:19:51 -0000, E.R.N. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Bob W wrote:

Science does not claim to know how the universe came into existence - and it is humble enough to admit that it doesn't know. But it can propose theories that are testable without requiring an infinite regress such as gods. But explaining the creation of the universe in terms of gods is equivalent to saying "it's turtles all the way down".

"Science" claims, knows and proposes nothing. People do all of those things. Some scientists are humble -- and honest -- enough to admit they don't know.
Some say, "we don't know; it could be God."
And some people (scientists and otherwise) say, "We don't know, but whatever it is, it can't be God." Which is not a humble position.

Don't keep inventing what other people say or believe.

Scientists don't say "there is no God". Science isn't finished and complete. There is much more to discover, and scientists are reasonably confident that explanations will in time be found for phenomena we can't explain today. They doubt that God is likely to be the answer to any question, not least because so many things that were once thought to be magical or inexplicable now have straightforward explanations.

John

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