I think the shooting distance on my robin was about 20 feet. The AF 400T is poweful enough to give you some fill at that distance, but you need a camera that will do high speed synch. I think the PZ-1P is the only Pentax that allows relatively high speed synch, but I could be wrong. I think a shutter speed of at least 1/500th is necessary to hand hold with a 500mm lens on a 35mm film camera. I shot this guy at 1/750th. The Sigma 500 Super has a high synch mode that allows high shutter speeds with the D camera, even though the camera's native synch speed is very limited. Even the AF400T could benefit from the magnifier. If memory serves me correctly, it was inexpensive. I bought it from Kirk. Paul
-------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Markus Maurer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi Paul > do you think that the Pentax AF 400T without a teleadapter or flash > magnifier with ISO 200-400 film would be powerful enough for that kind of > bird shot? What was the shooting distance here? > > I will get a Tamron SP 500 mirror lens tomorrow and would like to try some > bird or other animal photography. > > greetings > Markus > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 12:16 PM > >>To: [email protected] > >>Subject: Re: PESO: Robin, Michigan Style > >> > >> > >>Oddly enough, birds don't seem to mind the flash. If I move my arms or > >>raise the camera, they fly away. But I can fire the flash repeatedly, > >>and it doesn't seem to alarm them. Maybe they don't really see it, or > >>else it doesn't register as something they should be afraid of. > >>On Mar 6, 2006, at 12:10 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: > >> > >>> Hi! > >>> > >>>> Did a bird hike in the woods today. The first robins of spring showed > >>>> up this weekend. This guy is the common robin as seen throughout most > >>>> of the US. Shot with the *istD, the A 400/5.6 and the Sigma 500 Super > >>>> flash on high-speed synch setting with the Kirk flash magnifier > >>>> attached. ISO 800, f5.6 @ 1/750th. > >>>> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4188940&size=lg > >>> > >>> Paul, have pity on the little fellow - Sigma 500 super flash *with* > >>> flash magnifier... Hope you did not give little bird a big heart > >>> attack ;-). > >>> > >>> Cool stuff... > >>> > >>> Boris > >>> > >> >

