-----Original Message-----
From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27. mars 2006 21:19
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Much improved (WAS: Testing a Tamron Adaptall 6.9 200-500mm
(not SP))
Thanks, Tim.
I take you are talking about the M* 4/300mm prime.
IMO is does outperform the Tamron zoom. Perhaps not by miles, but it is
noticeable - even on these small (33%) images, saved for web (from 4MB to
160 KB) images.
Yes, you are right keeping thsi long lens still at 500mm 1/40 sec. is
imposible using a tripod. I beanbag would haven been better. Don't look
to
much at the 500mm test. All it shows is that it's contrasty and
reasonably
sharp - I believe the F.6.9 and F.8 shots show this.
I don't know this Tokina AT-X 100-300mm.
I had a FA 100-300mm (powerzoom)at work. Noting to write home about!
I have tested a MF Tokina AT-X 2.8/70-200mm sometime ago. Nothing to
wrtite
home about! It may have been a "monday version", though. But I have had
two
AT-X 2.6-2.8/28-70mm Pro II. I impact damaged one and got a replacement
(still got it). It's a brilliant lens.
It seems the price level of a Tokina 100-300mm MF F.4 is somehwere
between
150 and 300 USD.
http://tinyurl.com/nztvv
http://tinyurl.com/moz8s
A problem (for me) with Tokina is that you're never really sure if we are
talkning about the same lens/model. They seem to do small changes (often
not
for the better) during production - without changing the model name?
I paid 138 Euro for the Tamron. I believe It may just be worth it, even
though it's only a "K-lens" (green button shooting).
I don't know if I'll ever get good results, since it's so HUGE. I don't
have
a tripod heavy enough - and I'll need aditional support at the front end.
Or
I will have to rest it on a bag or similar in order to keep it from
moving
;-) But the opticall quality is surprisingly high, considered it's not
even
a SP (F.5.6), which is prised at twice of what I paid. (Perhaps the 5.6
version is a Adaptall 2)
Anybody knows this, please ???
As soon as we get better weather - I'l go shoot some birds at a near by
nature reserve :-):
http://www.sns.dk/jagt/reservatfoldere/oelsemagle/oelsemagle.html#Anchor-
Vad
efugl-10003
Regards
Jens
Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk
-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: Tim Øsleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 27. marts 2006 20:00
Til: [email protected]
Emne: RE: Much improved (WAS: Testing a Tamron Adaptall 6.9 200-500mm
(not SP))
That's improvement Jens!
Did you put grease on the lens elements on the prime, to make the test
unfair :-)
Seriously: The prime should outperform the zoom by miles. It simply
doesn't
IMHO. This is really surprising. If it was a modern state of the art zoom
like the Sigma 100-300/4, it wouldn't have surprised me that much, but
this
is an old, slow and cheap lens.
At first I was a bit puzzled by the 500mm test. The result is better at
6,9
and 8, than it is at 11, and it improves at 16 and 22. I guess it simply
is
camera shake. Hopefully the new D2 will minimize this.
Not that _I_ can afford one when it comes. I have to wait for the prize
drop.
BTW. I have been thinking on looking for a MF Tokina AT-X 100-300/4. I
have
no idea what price I can expect, but if you are lucky you might get one
at
a
affordable prize. The very few reviews online indicates it is a very good
lens. This and the AF 1,7x might be a killer combo. In good light the AF
should work.
Any thoughts on this?
Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 27. mars 2006 18:40
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: OT: Much improved (WAS: Testing a Tamron Adaptall 6.9
> 200-500mm
> (not SP))
>
> Hello list.
> The relative bright weather today allowed me to improve my brick wall
test
> significantly.
> It's a Tamron (adaptall) 6.9 200-500mm vs. SMC Pentax FA 2.8/80-200mm
> ED(IF) and vs. SMC Pentax M* 4/300mm.
> Please take a look at: http://www.jensbladt.dk/Test/newfile1.html
>
> Regards
> Jens
>
> Jens Bladt
> http://www.jensbladt.dk
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sendt: 27. marts 2006 07:44
> Til: [email protected]
> Emne: RE: Tersting a Tamron Adaptall 6.9 200-500mm (not SP)
>
>
> Having fun is still the most improtant thing, Tim ;-)
> Does photographs from the Zoo count?
> I'm afraid they took all the birds indoors because of the current bird
> flue
> thing ;-(
>
> Regards
> Jens Bladt
> http://www.jensbladt.dk
>
> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> Fra: Tim Øsleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sendt: 26. marts 2006 14:53
> Til: [email protected]
> Emne: RE: Tersting a Tamron Adaptall 6.9 200-500mm (not SP)
>
>
> I havn't done a "formal" test with my lens, but so far it looks like
that
> me
> too, has to shoot at f:8 or more with my Tokina AT-X 150-500 f:5,6. I
also
> have a impression that I have to shoot at 15 meter or closer. Yesterday
> was
> a very bright day, with snow, bright sun, and reflections from the sea.
> When
> shooting at longer distance I had a lot of contrast problems. I'm not
sure
> it is contrast problems, but that's my "diagnose" at this stage. I
haven't
> shoot any keepers yet. But, it is fun.
>
> Hi Thibouille. I don't know where you live.
> But I guess if you look around you most likely will find some spots
where
> you can get bird photos without messy backgrounds. Have a walk in a
park,
> go
> to a lonely sport stadium, try getting on top of some roofs etc. My
point
> is
> that I'm pretty sure you will find good spots for shooting city birds
> if
> you
> go looking.
> This is just some ideas up from my sleeve. Have fun.
>
>
> Tim
> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
>
> Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds
> (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thibouille [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 26. mars 2006 13:44
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Tersting a Tamron Adaptall 6.9 200-500mm (not SP)
> >
> > Sure but it even more dificult to get an interesting picture: the
> > bird
> > could be very nice but the background often a bit too... messy ? (and
> > I'm kind ;)
> >
> > On 3/26/06, Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hmmm...
> > > Ther must be some birds in the city - doves, perhaps ;-)
> > > Not to mention the birds can can watch go by ;-)
> > > Regards
> > > jens
> > >
> > > Jens Bladt
> > > http://www.jensbladt.dk
> > >
> > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
> > > Fra: Thibouille [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sendt: 26. marts 2006 11:18
> > > Til: [email protected]
> > > Emne: Re: Tersting a Tamron Adaptall 6.9 200-500mm (not SP)
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm interested too.
> > > Will be dificult for me to shoot much (living in plain center of
> > > the
> > > city) but I'm very curious of what I could do with my stuff too ;)
> > >
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