> > From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/05/12 Fri PM 09:36:29 GMT > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: OT <LOL> - What's a Firewall? > > I still say that if you get hit by a trojan horse program it is your own > damn fault. Nothing I download is opened or goes out of the download > folder until it is scanned for viruses, spyware, etc. If I forget it is > not someone else's fault. That does not mean that some smart guy > somewhere can not hack your box, if he does that is not your fault. But > if you bring the thing in the door yourself it sure as hell is. > > graywolf > http://www.graywolfphoto.com > http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf > "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" > -----------------------------------
I've had printer drivers, applications and installation programmes try to phone home on installation. Something called "setup.exe" tried in the middle of nothing in particular. Other programmes as and when the fancy takes them. All certified free of malware. The behaviour was part of the programming. All entirely innocuous, of course - it may have been to just check for updates. But that's precisely what I don't want to happen. On my machine, only NS is allowed to access the internet without asking and updates are turned off. Although you can train Zonealarm to not allow access (click the "do not allow this progamme ever" type box) it's educational to not do that for a while and see how often, for example, IE tries to. Some programmes are accessing the net _forever_, or so it seems. > > > John Francis wrote: > > Wrong. > > > > A classic security violation is a "Trojan Horse" program > > (or image, or ...) that, once inside your barrier, opens > > up a pathway to the outside world and downloads all sorts > > of unpleasant stuff. > > > > That's how a lot of spyware, adware, etc. gets installed. > > > > I've got a NAT box to isolate me from the outside world, > > but I still run firewall software to monitor all attempts > > at connections, even if originated on my computer. > > > > > > I'm amazed that anyone would consider using a home computer > > connected to the 'net *without* having firewall software > > installed. Almost as amazed as I am that somebody could > > own and use a DS for months without even knowing it could > > be put into full manual mode, but that's another topic :-) > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 04:32:08PM -0400, graywolf wrote: > >> It is not what is trying to get out that you have to worry about, it is > >> what is trying to get in. > >> > >> graywolf > >> http://www.graywolfphoto.com > >> http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf > >> "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" > >> ----------------------------------- > >> > >> > >> mike wilson wrote: > >>> graywolf wrote: > >>> > >>>> Well if you are running Windows XP Pro SP2 you go into the Control > >>>> Panel, select Security Center, click Windows Firewall at the bottom of > >>>> the panel, then click On. > >>>> > >>>> If not you spend some money. > >>>> > >>>> However most wireless routers have a firewall option built in also, > >>>> which is what I am running right now because it firewalls the whole > >>>> network. > >>> I still like to know what's trying to get out...... > >>> > >>>> graywolf > >>>> http://www.graywolfphoto.com > >>>> http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf > >>>> "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" > >>>> ----------------------------------- > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Shel Belinkoff wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> It's been suggested that I install a fire wall, but I don't really know > >>>>> what one is or how they work. So, what's a fire wall, how does it work, > >>>>> what are the pros and cons of using one, and where can I get one? > >>>>> > >>>>> Shel > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
