Shel - I won't retract my feeling about some folk being elitist judging from what I've read here -- but I will explain my computer system and its problems
System includes my ISP in my lingo... and the web in NY is often slow no matter what your set up is. I have a 7 year old computer Dell PEntium 3, 56 modem (yes, that also doesnt run at full tilt) 13 g hard drive and 512 ram. I can't afford DSL, can't get cable connection through my current internet server in my physical area even if I had the money. I use Netscape communicator 4.6 for email and Mozilla Firefox as a browser, but as I read the list in NEtscape, if I click on a link to get to a photo, as I have JAva turned off in NEtscape problems sometimes ensue. I may mess up some terms - in regards to current software and everything on a windoze plateform I'm virtually (no pun intended) self taught and I probably say silly things as a result. However, I've worked with computers since 1962 and made most of my living writing market reasearch tab specs back in the day. I haven't worked since a few months after 62, about 7 years ago. Of course, I was using main frame computers most of those years and once on a PC was using DOS and line editors. I resisted PC's as long as I could and once I was forced into them I still wasn't using Windows - I was talking to the internet since 1994 in a totally plain text environment - used pine for email, kedit for writing everything. I had to teach myself ms word and such. As to connections - When I get on line early in the morning or late at night things move faster - if I try to do anything between 4 and 6 pm or so I get all sorts of super lag. I am also really beginning to understand the term "you cant teach and old dog new tricks' I thought that meant because older dogs are stubborn, now I know (though I can surely be stubborn ) just how hard it is to learn anything new in the first place and retain it for more than 5 seconds in the second. I don't know GOdfrey in person but I consider Paul a friend, so I'm sure he is looking at anything I've said as an intellectual exchange and not a flame - though situations these days are making me a bit more cranky than usual. I also have my screen settings so i can SEE them... I have an LCD monitor I got when my crt died and thats a lot better for my eyes, but I still have the monitor set so that often things need scrolling to get seen. Anyway, technology is definitely moving faster than I am, but I'm not intimidated by computers in general. What little money I have is made on them even now and everything that i HAVE to do takes such a long time that downloading a 500k image just to appreciate it is really daunting... Best, ann Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > I don't want to start a flame war here, and before this escalates further, > perhaps you can define what constitutes a long time, Ann. How long does it > take for you to DL an image of about 150K? What do you mean when you say > it slows your system down? > > What speed is your modem and connection? How old is your computer, and how > fast is the processor and the hard drives? > > I'm asking because it's easy to just bandy about terms, but without some > details they mean nothing. > > I'm on dial-up, and my connection is often about 46 whatevers per second, > not the full 56 of the modem's rating. Regardless, I've no problem > downloading a file of about 200k. I've not timed it, but such a file is > well within my patience limit, and certainly doesn't seem excessive. > > Godders' files load pretty quickly for me, and, more than some people, I > know he makes an effort to keep the size reasonable. Posting a link to > larger sized files requires that he use more of his resources to allow a > broader range of people, on a wider range of machines, to view his work, > should they care to. That, imo, is far from elitist. It's whatever the > opposite of elitist is. And, FWIW, his larger files download pretty > quickly on my machine as well. > > Now, in truth, I don't know what other factors besides the modem speed and > the connection speed effect the final download speed, and it may be because > my machine is newer than yours that things move a little faster, but, in > all honesty, I don't believe that a larger hard drive or faster or more > memory, or a faster CPU, have that great an effect on how long it takes to > DL a file. If those things do, maybe there are some tweaks and adjustments > you can make to your machine. You don't seem very computer savvy, so maybe > some of the more knowledgeable folks here can help you. You've certainly > got a number of friends here who know what they're doing in this regard. > > Perhaps you've been a little quick to pass judgement on Godders and Paul. > > Shel > > > [Original Message] > > From: Ann Sanfedele > > > What, Paul, you too? > > > > Dial-up is NOT dead by a long shot. > > I can't even get anything else in my neighborhood right > > now even if i could afford it.... and I can't. > > > > As it is, I can't see half the stuff you guys post to the > > list to look at because it > > takes so long to load and it slows down the system trying. > > > > I wish I could have faster access - it takes me too long to > > list things on ebay, too > > long to do everything, but what part of some of us don't > > have the bucks don't you > > guys understand?? > > > > IT really is very hurtful > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
