> 
> From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2006/06/21 Wed PM 03:42:16 GMT
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Re: The Middle-aged Man and the Sea
> 
> Hi Mike,
> 
> I'd have to agree with you somewhat on your first point, although it really
> depends on how easy or difficult it may be to get to the lab.  As an
> example, it could take me several hours to get to my lab and back if I
> didn't have a car, as has been the case when the old clunker was in for
> repairs.  Even with a car it's still about an 18-mile round trip. 
> Depending on when I arrive, regardless of how I get there, the film may be
> ready in a few hours or I may have to wait until the next day.  Both
> possibilities add another layer of inconvenience, time, and cost.

> However, if your lab is around the corner, and you're happy with the work
> they do, then your point is well taken - unless you've got some processing
> needs when they're closed.

There's always the post....

> 
> 
> As for control, well, I'd have to disagree. In most cases these days (and
> maybe even before these days if memory serves), color adjustments were made
> universally over the entire print.  Even using burning, dodging, and some
> masking techniques can be "general" and imprecise when using a lab. 
> Working with Photoshop or a similar editor, you can make adjustments in
> more ways and in smaller, more specific areas.  If need be, you can work
> right down to the pixel level.

> Getting rid of scratches and dust spots can be a PITA with film.  Scanned
> film makes cleanup a lot easier, and with digital there's rarely a need to
> use the spotting or healing brush.
> 
> I suppose a lot of this depends on how critical one wants, or needs, to be.
> Small and seemingly unimportant details take on a greater significance as
> the print gets larger.  What you find acceptable for your own needs may not
> be acceptable if a print is being made for someone else.  
> 
> Shel

Don't forget I'm postulating the photographic requirements of the mythical 
"everyman", otherwise known as "the man on the Clapham omnibus" or "Joe 
Sixpack".   The sort of person who was wholly happy to dump their cassettes at 
the lab/chemist/postbox and take what came back with blithe abandon.  I'm not 
convinced these people are getting a good deal out of the "digital revolution" 
and they are by far the greater proportion of photographers, although some 
would deny them that title.  

> 

> 
> 
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: mike wilson 
> 
> > You drop your film off and pick up the outcome - how much more 
> > convenience do you want?  Sitting for hours in front of a monitor is 
> > not convenient - pleasurable to some but then so is being rubbed 
> > with Yak fat and walloped with phone books.
> >
> > If you can find a lab that will follow instructions, you have as much 
> > control as anyone using home equipment.
> 
> 
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