What Tom said. Kenneth Waller
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: PUG > >From: "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>It is an unfortunate fact that the PUG is slowly dying. One reason is >>that some (often good) photographers find the file size limitation too >>restrictive, or that the submission process is too much hassle. >> >>Another is that incompetent people like me miss the deadlines, and >>therefore don't contribute (no great loss in my case). >> >>Others feel that the standard is too low, and it's not worth the bother. >> >>What is the PUG for? Is it a showcase of the PDML's best work? Or is it >>an opportunity to present one's work for peer review and criticism? If >>the latter, can't the same be achieved by a PESO? >> >>If it is meant to be a showcase, why not have a panel of judges to select >>the 50 best PAWs and PESOs each month, and then put them into a gallery? >>Irfanview can produce a suitable gallery with thumnnails at the press of a >>button, so there is little work involved. >> >>As for file sizes, I would suggest that people submitting PAWs and PESOs >>should consciously aim to keep file sizes low (say 150k) in order to make >>the images available to the widest audience. But there should not be a >>strict size limit. It is surely better to have a large picture which a >>few people can't see, than have a picture which nobody can see because the >>photographer doesn't submit it. >> >> >>John >> > > As is often the case, my posts sometimes go ignored... > > Here's the way I see it and this is just my opinion. > > If the 'Gallery' is not supposed to represent the best we can do, but is > instead a catch-all photo-sharing mechanism, there are plenty of ways to > accomplish that. PESO's for one, or make use of any number of photo > sharing > sites. A Flickr or photo.net account could be opened with a publicly > known > password and a new themed presentation could be created each month. There > would not need to be a deadline as participants could post their photo at > any time during the themed month, and no single person would have the > burden > of maintaining it. If a person posted a photo and then thought better of > it, they could remove it, and possibly post another. It would not be > static, but one that continually evolves. If one wants to have a photo > sharing/commenting/learning experience, that would seem to be much more > flexible. > > (Note: I realize the idea coulld present some security/mischief/nefarious > behavior issues). > > I have always thought that a 'Gallery' was supposed to be something > special. > I don't presume to speak for, think for, write for, in any way comment > for, or influence Adelheid. However a fair amount of time and effort has > gone into the PUG both in software and in the monthly effort of > maintaining > it. > > If it is not something special, then I question the reason for it being > called a gallery and even for having a maintainer. When I first joined > the > PDML in 1999 (I think my first post was '97/'98) I sort of viewed the > gallery as a showcase for what could be created with Pentax equipment. At > that time the PUG was loosely linked to the PDML and the PDML had a link > on > the Pentax website. > > I generally enjoy the PUG, but more than having a large number of > participants, since it's called a gallery, I wish it would be more of a > high > quality showcase. A lot of high quality photos would be ideal. > > > Tom C. > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

