Comments interspersed at random points through out... >From: "Don Sanderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >IF we will all contribute, and IF we will all critique >fairly, then the good photographers will have that fact >confirmed. >And the "not so good" (most likely includes me) will >work at becoming better, or perhaps, just stop >submitting. >The PUG will grow in BOTH submissions AND quality. > >After all, it is the: > >"Pentax _Users_ Gallery" >"A gallery of images produced by >the members of the Pentax-Discuss >Mailing List" > >Nowhere in the "submission guidelines" does it >state that one must be a great photographer to >participate. >Nor does it state that great photographers may not. >
True enough. Just like the rules for getting elected to a position of political power don't say one must be honest. :-) Since there's no judge it's open to all. >How can a photographer judge the merit of his/her >own work if he/she can't view it side by side with >the work of others, on a "level playing field" such >as the PUG? >By level I mean that we are all subject to the same >submission guidlines. I don't think a level playing field ineeded to tell the truth. If one walks into a photo gallery or art exhibit they'll see all different sizes, matting, framing styles juxtaposed here, there and everywhere. Of course I don't think one has to see a good and bad photo side-by-side to tell the difference. That's partially my point, judge ones work before it's submitted. I get where you're coming from though. > >You don't wish to display excellent work next to crap. >I don't wish to display crap next to excellent work. >So I guess I'll just have to work a little harder at >my craft then you. >Who loses? No one that I can see. >You get to display excellent work, I get to learn. >Sounds very fair to me, and I have the harder road >to travel. ;-) > >Don While I recognize that one can and certainly should learn from looking at others photographs and comparing their work to others, I never have viewed the PUG's main intent to be an educational one. I thought it was to display pretty pictures. :-) I still think that negative feedback will be next to nil on those photographs that are, in your words "crap". Witness the comment I made about the PUG in general that started this discussion, and the subsequent reaction. I actually like John Forbe's idea of having a panel of judges that votes on which submissions are included. Sure it has the possibility of appearing arbitrary, but no less so than submitting a photo to a contest or periodical for publication. I'm burnt out on the subject (I think). :-) Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
