Which goes to prove nothing. In Ann Arbor when I lived there, none of the retail stores stocked pro gear because "it was unprofitable". So a couple of guys openned Studio Center Photographics. They sold nothing but pro gear, and at least made a living from it. 4x5, 8x10, Hasselblads, Canon* pro stuff you never saw elsewhere, 4x5 enlargers, Strobotron, etc. It was a joy just to browse the place.
*Nikon whould not sell to them because they had not been in business long enough at that time. Nikon would not sell their pro gear to what they considered consumer stores either. Obviously part of the reason Nikon lost a lot of the pro market. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" ----------------------------------- Tom C wrote: > Yeah, I see what you mean. :-) It's a chicken/egg argument. Sure the > Pentax gear exists. But if it's unprofitable for the store to stock it on > their shelves, then it's "unavailability" is not just because the store did > not order it, or because a customer did not place the order. It goes a > little deeper than that, as you suggest. The market doesn't exist to > justify stocking it, therfore the market won't exist. > > If I want a Porsche and you're the only car dealer in town and you don't > have a Porsche to sell me, I might not buy a Porsche. > > I actually agree with you. > > Tom C. > > "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or > numbered." > > > > >> From: "Aaron Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: K10D - More News >> Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 19:33:00 -0400 >> >> The Pentax pro programs are also virtually non-existent. They're not >> pursuing the market. >> >> But like I said originally, I was not suggesting that John's store SHOULD >> carry the stuff -- just saying that "availability" is a bd argument from a >> retailer, since it's available to them. The fact that his store never >> orders it does not prove that the stuff doesn't exist or can't be bought. >> >> I don't have any Porches available for sale -- therefore, Porche doesn't >> make cars any more. See what I mean? >> >> -Aaron >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subj: Re: K10D - More News >> Date: Mon Aug 7, 2006 7:24 pm >> Size: 2K >> To: [email protected] >> >> I'm sure all this true but it gets pretty circular. Aside from market >> momentum, one of the reasons most pros don't use Pentax may be because >> they'd have to order it. >> >> If my income depended on my having the right equipment at the right time, >> I'd go with a brand where I was pretty sure I could walk in and instantly >> purchase whatever lens, accessory, backup body I needed at the time. >> >> Tom C. >> >> "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or >> numbered." >> >> >> >> >>> From: "Aaron Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: K10D - More News >>> Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 19:11:00 -0400 >>> >>> John -- this does not change the fact that the store could order it and >>> have it in a few days. Like I said, the reason you have no Pentax pro >>> glass for sale is that you ordered no Pentax pro glass. All you have >> done >>> below is to list the very sensible reasons that your store has not >> ordered >>> any. >>> >>> -Aaron >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> >>> From: John Celio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Subj: Re: K10D - More News >>> Date: Sat Aug 5, 2006 7:19 pm >>> Size: 986 bytes >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >>> >>>> While you're right that pro representation is slim, your store doesn't >>> have >>>> the glass because your store didn't order the glass -- end of story. >>> We've had high-end Pentax glass many times in the past, and all it's ever >>> done >>> is sit there, gathering dust. >>> >>> I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, which is a very affluent part of >> the >>> world. Through my job, I've met dozens upon dozens of pro photographers. >>> I >>> have yet to meet ONE who uses Pentax (it sucks to have to pretend to like >>> Canon, by the way), even though the majority of them could afford >>> pro-quality >>> outfits if they wanted to. Other high-end stores I've been to in the >> area >>> have >>> had similar experiences. If I ask why they don't have higher-end Pentax >>> lenses, they all tell me they just don't sell. No exceptions. >>> >>> It's unfortunate, but that's the market. You want pro equipment, you go >>> Canon >>> or Nikon. >>> >>> John Celio >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
