To complicate things further, Ferdinand Porsche developed the Volkswagen when 
he worked for Daimler-Benz before World War II. Life in the car business can be 
complicated.
Paul
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From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Air cooled engines can not meet the smog laws, of course they had to 
> redesign it.
> 
> I think you mean the 914. IIRC, the 924, 928 and 958 all came out about 
> the same time. The 924 was a sporty car (looked like a sports car, but 
> without the performance), the 928 was the mainstream front engined 
> sports car, and the 958 was the Ferrari killer. Maybe the 958 never 
> actually hit the streets (it didn't in the US).
> 
> Mr Porsche was the developer of the Volkswagon. The early Porsches had 
> souped up VW engines in them. Volkswagon bought out Porsche in the 60's, 
> maybe it has been spun off again (I have not been keeping up).
> 
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> 
> Adam Maas wrote:
> > Although Volkswagen and Porsche are closely connected, they are 
> > independant companies. Volkswagen's top end model back then was the 
> > Volkwagen not the 958 (I think you might be referring to the 928 here? 
> > The original front-engine Porsche design, not to be confused with the 
> > 924 which was designed later but produced earlier and was riginally 
> > intended as a VW design).
> > 
> > You should also note that the current 911 platform dates back to only 
> > 1997 and was heavily updated a few years ago. The original 911 platform 
> > was built for decades, but ended its run in 1998 after being replaced by 
> > a completely different, water-cooled platform (the 996, replaced by the 
> > 997 which is merely an evolutionary step from the 996).
> > 
> > I'm not sure what VW sedan you're referring to as Porsche doesn't 
> > currently make a sedan. They have 2 mid-engine sportscars (the Cayman 
> > and Boxster) one rear engine sportscar (the 911), a Supercar (Carrera 
> > GT) and the SUV they developed with Audi/VW (the Touareg/Cayenne), which 
> > is probably more Porsche than VW. Porsche is currently floating a sedan 
> > concept though, as a 928 follow-on.
> > 
> > The only Volkswagen Porsche ever made was the 924, which was originally 
> > designed for Volkswagen, but ended up being produced as a Porsche after 
> > VW decided not to go into production and Porsche bought-back the design.
> > 
> > -Adam
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > graywolf wrote:
> >> I believe Volkswagon's top of the line model was the Porsche 958. 
> >> However I just checked the website and notice that except for the SUV 
> >> and a souped up VW sedan, Porsche no longer makes a front engined car. 
> >> However they still make several versions of the 911. If Pentax operated 
> >> like that there would be 6 versions of the Spotmatic in the current 
> >> catalog.
> >>
> > 
> > 
> > 
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