Adam wrote: "They regularly complain about the Reconquista, the results of the Battle of Lepanto and the lifting of the Siege of Vienna by Jan Sobieski (the latter two occurrences broke the power of the Ottoman Empire). They're major beef with the west is the idea that any land that has ever been under the control of Islam must be returned to the control of Islam."
Thanks Adam. I like to imagine that my ancestors were there with the Polish Cavalry, the "Winged Warriors", who helped break that siege and the advance of the Ottoman Empire. To Bob W's point, I don't want to paint anybody as angels or devils. The situation is complex, but I don't see anybody in my neighborhood recruiting suicide bombers and exhorting others to kill the infidels. Talk about seeing things as black and white! Regards, Bob S. On 8/12/06, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > William Robb wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bob Sullivan" > > Subject: Re: Another Blow Against Photography > > > > > > > > > >>When you can tell me with a straight face that you will be willing to > >>live under the rule of the fundamentalist clergy of Osama's choice (or > >>even Episcopalian for that matter), I'll believe you. The conditions > >>that lead to this terrorism are the march of time and tide as we grow > >>into an educated, plural, tolerant society. > > > > > > Bob, the Muslim world wouldn't give a damn about the west, and certainly > > wouldn't be trying to blow westerners up if they didn't have greviances > > that they cannot address any other way. > > > > William Robb > > > > Unfortunately, many of the grievances they're bitching about are > essentially unresolvable without a complete capitulation on the part of > teh West. > > They regularly complain about the Reconquista, the results of the Battle > of Lepanto and the lifting of the Siege of Vienna by Jan Sobieski (the > latter two occurances broke the power of the Ottoman Empire). They're > major beef with the west is the idea that any land that has ever been > under the control of Islam must be returned to the control of Islam. > This includes most of Europe (really all of Continental Europe except > Germany, Poland, Scandinavia and Northern and Central France, as at some > point or another an Islamic Nation or Army controlled most of Europe). > > The Average Muslim doesn't believe this, but the problem children > committing the violence do. > > -Adam > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
