We can be thankful then that one of us did! John
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 20:49:58 +0100, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You knew what I meant, John! :-) > > > > > Tom C. > "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or > numbered." > > Bigger picture? > > I think most of us were aware that Canon has more than one model, Tom, > but > no doubt those who weren't are grateful to you. :-) > > John > > On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:43:44 +0100, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Actually I didn't have to work too hard. :-) Partly just playing >> Devil's >> advocate, partly pointing out that there's a bigger picture when one >> looks >> at all the data that was presented in the chart. >> >> >> >> >> Tom C. >> "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or >> numbered." >> >> >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan >> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:33:17 +0000 >> The nonsensical part of it lies in taking what is essentially good news >> and >> trying to twist it into something negative. You had to work hard to make >> bad >> news out of this data. >> Paul >> -------------- Original message ---------------------- >> From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Point it out the nonsense then to me big guy. I don't root for >>> failure, >>> neither am I wearing a short cheerleaders uniform jumping around on the >>> sidelines. It seems like some here grasp for every shread of positive >>> news >>> they can get and then exaggerate it into something it's not. >>> >>> Fine, Pentax has one model that one recent week in Japan was the 3rd >>> best >>> selling DSLR. We don't know what made it a 3rd best seller or the >>> actual >>> number of units sold compared to best sellers 1 and 2. Why did it sell >>> so >>> well? Features? Price? A price cut? The fact that it was Japan? >>> >>> Pentax has between a 3 - 4% share of the world-wide digital camera >>> market. >>> That's it. So for every 3 or 4 cameras Pentax sells (DSLR and other >>> digital), there are 96 or 97 other non-Pentax cameras sold. >>> >>> That's not exactly operating from a position of strength in a market >>> that >>> appears to be pretty cut throat. >>> >>> Tom C. >>> >>> "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or >>> numbered." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >>> >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >>> >Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan >>> >Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:26:33 -0400 >>> > >>> >Of course you care whether Pentax succeeds. You root for failure. You >>> >try to find the dark side of everything. Most of what you say is >>> >nonsense. >>> >Paul >>> >On Aug 17, 2006, at 7:59 PM, Tom C wrote: >>> > >>> > > Hey you ARE attacking me with words like that. I'm merely pointing >>> > > out 1) >>> > > the partial nature of the data and 2) that there's more than one >>> > > way to view >>> > > it aside from the superficially shouting "You go, Pentax!". >>> > > >>> > > I really don't care that much whether Pentax is a scuccess or >>> > > failure. They >>> > > will be what they are with or without me. >>> > > >>> > > Tom C. >>> > > >>> > > "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed >>> or >>> > > numbered." >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >> From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> > >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >>> > >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >>> > >> Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan >>> > >> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 19:17:01 -0400 >>> > >> >>> > >> HAR! You wonder why your positions here have been attacked. >>> > >> Pentax couldn't possibly be doing well. Never! Of course not. And >>> if >>> > >> anyone critiques your negativity, they're apologists for Pentax, >>> > >> right? >>> > >> My local camera store told me that they were amazed by the demand >>> for >>> > >> the K100. In the past, they've rarely stocked any Pentax >>> equipment. >>> > >> Now they have the K100 and all the DA lenses. >>> > >> On Aug 17, 2006, at 5:02 PM, Tom C wrote: >>> > >> >>> > >>> It's one Pentax model vs. how many Canons combined? >>> > >>> >>> > >>> It's only a one-week snapshot of the country of Japan. >>> > >>> >>> > >>> It's a new model so one might anticipate high sales shortly after >>> > >>> release, >>> > >>> to be likewise eclipsed by sales of a subsequent model (Pentax or >>> > >>> competitor). >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> Tom C. >>> > >>> >>> > >>> "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, >>> > >>> debriefed or >>> > >>> numbered." >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>>> From: "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> > >>>> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >>> > >>>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]> >>> > >>>> Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan >>> > >>>> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:54:03 +0100 >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> It's nice to see Pentax ahead of all the Canons. Be interesting >>> > >>>> to watch >>> > >>>> the share price over the next few months. With any luck that >>> nasty >>> > >>>> asset-stripper Abe X will sell up and move on. >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> John >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:50:45 +0100, Mark Roberts >>> > >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> > >>>> wrote: >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>>> keith_w wrote: >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>>> Mark Roberts wrote: >>> > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>> http://www.dslrphoto.com/2006/08/17/japan-most-popular-digital- >>> > >>>> camera-ranking-aug-7-to-aug-13-2006/ >>> > >>>>>>> Behind the Nikon D200 and the Sony A100, but ahead of a whole >>> > >>>>>>> lot of >>> > >>>>>>> Canons and Nikons. >>> > >>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> The K100D sells there for only US$550? >>> > >>>>>> Is that without lens? >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>>> And the Sony A100 is $722! >>> > >>>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> -- >>> > >>>> Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: >>> http://www.opera.com/m2/ >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> -- >>> > >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> > >>>> [email protected] >>> > >>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> -- >>> > >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> > >>> [email protected] >>> > >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> -- >>> > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> > >> [email protected] >>> > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > -- >>> > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> > > [email protected] >>> > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> > >>> > >>> >-- >>> >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> >[email protected] >>> >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> >> > > > > -- > Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
