Marnie, I sincerely appreciate your opinions and they'll be considered
in any future list remarks..and it definitely is your business.
Not arguing, but, whether you read and remember it, in the past I've
rarely commented about softness or lack of color. Monitor differences
notwithstanding, I take the uploads to be the photographers
presentation choice. My suggestions are USUALLY, as said earlier, only
about the moment and its composition.
The subject PESO was an exception and I have learned, took me awhile,
from the experience.
I hope it doesn't appear that I'm not allowing for other styles and
opinions. If have to be aware that there is insecurity out there and
it's up to me to be so aware.

Jack

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> In a message dated 8/21/2006 6:06:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Shel had indicated that he had done some spot sharpening on the cup.
> At
> least that's my recollection.
> Being honest about it, the cup lettering was fairly crisp, but that
> comment was a way of making a gentle point about the overall
> softness.
> Too subtle, I suppose.
> 
> Jack
> =======
> It's none of my business, I suppose. But I didn't understand your
> comment at 
> all either, Jack. There are several times you have made statements on
> list I 
> haven't understood at all.
> 
> Since I am dyslexic, I don't expect everyone to have the same way of 
> expressing themselves. Some are more precise, more literal, and some
> are more visual 
> oriented and use analogies more. And some are chatty and some are
> brief. Most 
> of the time I get most people but not all the time.
> 
> But I remain puzzled, I thought the first photo Shel showed wasn't
> bad. When 
> Godfrey upped the contrast then I got what you were saying. However,
> the 
> contrast was too strong in the second photo for me. Makes me wonder
> what people are 
> seeing in my photos. Or what I am seeing in theirs.
> 
> I don't expect that much from web page images either. I know they
> aren't as 
> good as the original photos.
> 
> Makes me think we are all getting too fussy sometimes. But also makes
> me 
> think some things, like amount of contrast and color depth, are
> personal 
> preferences as well. 
> 
> I just wish people would realize misunderstanding scan occur easily
> on the 
> Net, when voice inflection is gone and it all done by the written
> word. 
> Misunderstanding occur all the time.
> 
> Personally, I see no reason for sniping and, frankly, I get tired of
> the male 
> testosterone on this list sometimes. Snipe here, snipe back, etc. I
> also get 
> tired sometimes of an elitist attitude toward photos. I am covering
> everyone 
> here, in my tiredness, not one person or two.
> :-) Wise cracks get annoying after a while, no matter who makes them.
> 
> I do this for fun, lots do. Some aspire to more, but I also wish
> those that 
> do would remember that many of us do this for fun. Trying to turn out
> the best 
> photos we can, but for fun.
> 
> Sometimes this list irks the h*ll out of me. That is, when I am not
> enjoying 
> it.
> 
> Of course, I may need to calibrate my monitor again, but I think with
> lots of 
> photos I am seeing what people intended for me to see.
> 
> Marnie 
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