I'd expect a D80/K10D comparison to be a better idea. The D200's is much 
bigger and faster.

I'm expecting the K10D to be a better body than the D80, but closer to 
the D80 than the D200.

-Adam

Jens Bladt wrote:
> It would be nice to se a D200/K10D comparison!
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> jens
> 
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> 
> Douglas Newman wrote:
> 
>>--- Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>The K10D is likely going to be similar in size to
>>>the D80, with build in between the D80 and D200.
>>
>>
>>The D80 (I have not paid much attention to it) is
>>similar in size to the D70? I can live with that.
> 
> 
> Actually, it's notable smaller than the D70, essentially the same size
> as the D50 (differs by a few mm in each direction)
> 
> 
>>The D70 feels like it is built fairly decently, if the
>>D80 is similar again that is OK though I doubt the D80
>>will be any better built than an *ist DS/DL/K100
>>series camera all of which seem pretty solid.
> 
> 
> Can't say either way, although I found the D70 to be better than the DL,
> about the same as the DS/
> 
> 
>>What I would really like to see is a metal body (for
>>no reason other than that I like the way it feels!)
>>and especially weather-sealing. I always feel a slight
>>bit of nervousness taking my 20D out in the rain even
>>though I know it can handle it... I never felt that
>>with the "sealed" Olympus E-1 (which was beautifully
>>built and had excellent ergonomics but a pathetically
>>bad Kodak sensor).
>>
>><< I'd expect the K10D to also be at least a bit
>>better, although likely not as good as a D50 or the
>>20D. >>
>>
>>If it is, say, one stop worse than the 20D, I can live
>>with that since shake reduction makes up for it.
>>
>>Any worse than that and the difference would be big
>>enough for me to buy a K100D which should be very
>>similar in noise levels to the 20D.
>>
>>As for the D50, I know it is supposedly about the
>>lowest-noise camera out there, but I actually find its
>>noise more noticeable than the D70/D70s. The D70 has
>>VERY fine-grained noise which looks more like film
>>grain than thse noise from a lot of other digital
>>cameras.
> 
> 
> I shoot the D50. Noise is unnoticable at 800, at 1600 it leans more
> towards chroma noise, the D70 tends more to luminance noise, which is
> why it may be less objectionable although there's more of it.
> 
> 
>>You can see the difference very clearly here:
>>http://digitalcamera.impress.co.jp/06_02/auth/toku1/index_iso.htm
>>
>>Of all the 6 MP Sony sensor cameras listed there, I
>>would say the D70 looks subjectively best. The D50,
>>the two Pentaxes, and the two Konica Minoltas all
>>appear to have LESS noise than the D70, but it is, to
>>stick with the grain metaphor, "larger" grain than the
>>D70's.
>>
>>I guess the technical way to say this would be that
>>the D70 appears to have more luminance noise but less
>>chroma noise than the others. Interestingly, this is
>>the approach Nikon took with the rather noisy D200 and
>>even noisier D2x which have virtually no chroma noise
>>at all but LOADS of luminance noise.
>>
>>Doug
>>
> 
> 
> The *istD had the best noise quality of all the cameras I've shot with
> extensively (D50, D70, *istD, 20D, 350D). Very film-like.
> 
> -Adam
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