Well, John. :-) Are you suggesting they couldn't or wouldn't have gotten some portion of it, had they a 10MP DLSR on the market in the same time frame? Given that you would answer "No", that's my point.
Tom C. "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered." >From: "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: Japan DSLR Stats >Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:49:29 +0100 > >What is the point of saying they didn't get it, if you weren't suggesting >that they could have got it? > >John > >On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:43:33 +0100, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > No what *you* say is rubblish and implication. I did not imply they >lost > > it. I stated they didn't get it. > > > > You're right maybe they would not have gotten much of it anyway. In any > > case, Sony brought a 10MP DSLR to market before Pentax even tells us >what > > the specs are on their 10MP offering. > > > > > > Tom C. > > > > "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or > > numbered." > > > > > >> From: "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]> > >> Subject: Re: Japan DSLR Stats > >> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:27:44 +0100 > >> > >> On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:03:03 +0100, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > No market share is permanent. Let's just say the sales that > >> represented > >> > that 20% were not money in Pentax's pocket. I feel fairly safe in >the > >> > accuracy of that analysis. :-) > >> > >> Total rubbish, I'm afraid. If that money hadn't gone to Sony it > >> wouldn't > >> neccessarily have gone to Pentax, so you can't claim that they have >lost > >> it, which is the proposition implicit in your statement. > >> > >> John > >> > >> > >> > > >> > Tom C. > >> > > >> > "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or > >> > numbered." > >> > > >> > > >> >> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > >> >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > >> >> Subject: Re: Japan DSLR Stats > >> >> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 15:13:22 -0400 > >> >> > >> >> Sony didn't exactly grab 20% market share, Sony bought it, or at > >> least > >> >> bought the potential, when it bought Konica-Minolta. Sony just >built > >> an > >> >> improved-upgraded KM DSLR which with the Sony name gave them a short > >> >> time blip. Will it last" I can't say. > >> >> > >> >> Tom C wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >Among other things it's bad when Sony breaks into the DLSR market > >> and > >> >> >immediately grabs over 20% market share when Pentax has been in the > >> >> market > >> >> >for 3 years and has a much smaller share. > >> >> > > >> >> >It means price wars are going to escalate resulting in lower >profits > >> >> for > >> >> >all, but the bottom feeders will likely have the hardest time. > >> >> > > >> >> >When there's little or no profit left, incentive to make product A > >> will > >> >> >wain. When there's little or no incentive for camera maker X to > >> >> compete > >> >> in > >> >> >the market, they will stop producing those products. > >> >> > > >> >> >It doesn't say anything about Pentax directly. > >> >> > > >> >> >I actually hope Pentax does well. What is rosy? Pentax is not > >> Olympus. > >> >> > > >> >> >Tom C. > >> >> > > >> >> >"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed > >> or > >> >> >numbered." > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> >>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > >> >> >>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > >> >> >>Subject: Re: Japan DSLR Stats > >> >> >>Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:35:25 +0000 > >> >> >> > >> >> >>I don't know what you're huffing and puffing about. The article > >> >> doesn't > >> >> say > >> >> >>anything about Pentax. It merely recounts Sony's success. I think > >> >> Pentax > >> >> >>can expect much of the same. The K10D looks like it go >head-to-head > >> >> with > >> >> >>the Sony and may well prove superior. > >> >> >>Paul > >> >> >> -------------- Original message ---------------------- > >> >> >>From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >>>An article depicting market events that, unfortunately, will > >> likely > >> >> >>>suppress the level of success Pentax might have otherwise >realized > >> >> had > >> >> >>>they not sat on the pot for so long. > >> >> >>>Makes me want to "skip" the K10D 'til I get a feel for the rate >at > >> >> >>>which they are falling behind the curve. (Just venting a little). > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>>Jack > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>>--- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>>>Another article about Japan DSLR sales... pretty interesting. > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> > >> >> > >> > >>http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601101&sid=aLpc_JK1YEws&refer=japan > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>>Tom C. > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>>"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, > >> debriefed > >> >> or > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>>numbered." > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>>-- > >> >> >>>>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> >> >>>>[email protected] > >> >> >>>>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>__________________________________________________ > >> >> >>>Do You Yahoo!? > >> >> >>>Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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