Steve Sharpe wrote:
> At 8:55 PM -0400 9/26/06, Adam Maas wrote:
>> I'm hardly a Republican (hell, I'm not even American). And I was a
>> Classics Major in Uni. So I've seen the Ivory-Tower crap that Academia
>> often indulges in. Remember, flat earth theory was peer-reviewed.
> 
> What??
> 
>>  So was
>> the Ptolemaic Solar System model.
> 
> What??
> 
>>  Both were _proven_ wrong.
> 
> Both were fashionable in the days before the scientific method was 
> perfected and perpetrated more by the religious hierarchy than by 
> anyone else.
> 

The religious heirarchy were essentially the only ones doing any science 
in the West before the Renaissance, so it's just about impossible to 
seperate science from the Church prior to 1500 or so, and even later 
they were one of the driving forces behind scientific research (The 
infamous Gallileo incident arose because he was a plagiaristic asshole 
who couldn't help but inform everybody around him of his greatness, 
which pissed everybody off and led to his politic problems). And note 
that most of the Doctors of the Church were quite wedded to Reason, as 
they felt that only reason could illuminate the Will of God.

And the Ptolemaic model predates the Church's secular power. It's from 
the Greek era and the first great explorations of Natural Philosophy.

-Adam

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