Tell that to the stacks of A and later lenses at the local used section. K lenses other than the 50/2 and 80-200 f4.5 are on the rare side.
I suspect I've seen more used 35-80 variants than non-50mm K/M lenses in this city. -Adam J. C. O'Connell wrote: > WRONG - "A" lenses are extremely difficult to find > Compared to K/M. Sure thare are SOME rare K/M, > But there are nearly all rare A and later on used > Market. I should state that the "K" series are > Somewhat rare being only made for 2 years on most > Models but the "M" series should stand for MASSIVE > Quantities made and sold. Don’t forget that all pentax > Made was K and M for 9 years and those were their > Best years. By the time "A" came out Canon was > Kicking their ass in popularity. > JCO > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Adam Maas > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 6:31 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? > > Ok, try finding a K 85. Sure, there are a lot of K/M lenses out there, > but the A and later lenses are at least as common as the non-50mm > Pentax-branded K's today. A lot of K lenses (especially anything other > than 28, 35, 50 or 135's) are quite rare, like the 85. Many of the A > lenses (including the 50mm f2) were in production far longer than the > equivalent K/M lenses. > > -Adam > > > J. C. O'Connell wrote: >> Total Bullshit, Like I said in my earlier posts, >> Pentax was on top of the world in the K/M era >> In popularity. There are more K/M lenses in existance >> Than ALL THE OTHER SERIES COMBINED. Just try ebay. >> You have it ass backwards, finding lenses "A" or >> Later is much harder than K/M series, ebay or elsewhere. >> jco >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of >> Adam Maas >> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 5:53 PM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? >> >> Nothing wrong with them, I'm fond of mine. But the monstrous amount of > >> them floating around does not a market make. Other pre-A glass is >> significantly more rare. >> >> -Adam >> >> >> J. C. O'Connell wrote: >>> And whats wrong with 50mm F2's? :) >>> Seriuosly, pentax made a lot of >>> Really nice K and M lenses and they >>> For the most part are holding up >>> Excellently due to the great build quality. >>> To not fully support these millions of >>> Excellent PENTAX Lenses is really shameful... >>> jco >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >> Of >>> Adam Maas >>> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 4:55 PM >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> Subject: Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? >>> >>> Of course, 50% of those lenses you refer to are 50mm f2's sitting in > a >>> shoebox with a K1000 somewhere. >>> >>> -Adam >>> >>> J. C. O'Connell wrote: >>>> Oh Screw You. You don’t have a clue if you think that legacy >>>> Lens support is only a minor issue. And like an >>>> Idiot it's NOT the age of the lenses it's WHAT >>>> The PK/PKM lenses are, which are superb MANUAL >>>> Focus lenses which are not even available new >>>> Anymore so there is great reason to support them. >>>> AGE IS IRRELAVANT. There are MORE PK/PKM lenses >>>> In existence than all other lens series combined so >>>> MOST Pentax BRAND lenses are not fully supported. That’s >>>> Not good by any standards....This is a Pentax support >>>> Issue, not a compatability issue which really sucks >>>> IMHO. If yours differs, so be it, but you cannot >>>> Prove your points by calling me an idiot, it just >>>> Makes you look like an idiot in doing so.. >>>> Jco >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >>> Of >>>> John Forbes >>>> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 2:21 PM >>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> Subject: Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? >>>> >>>> Don't apologise to JC O'Connell. >>>> >>>> He is a boring little nitwit who comes onto the list every six > months >>> or >>>> so to wind himself into a frenzy over the lack of full support for >>> very >>>> old lenses. >>>> >>>> After abusing anyone who disagrees with him (sample: "Gimme a > friggin >>>> break with your "you don?t own a pentax (sic) DSLR So (sic) you > don?t >>>> know >>>> what youre (sic) talking about" B.S."). >>>> >>>> Eventually, after about a dozen posts, this one-issue idiot has an >>>> apoplectic fit, and shuts up for another six months while he >> recovers. >>>> Then the cycle starts all over again. >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 16:49:13 +0100, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: >>>>> I know that now. >>>>>> From now on I will look for limitations in my equipment. >>>>> JCO. >>>>> Sorry about my sarcastic reply. The compatibility could have been >>>> solved >>>>> better, I agree on that. >>>>> But I prefer looking forward, looking for solutions instead of >>> beating >>>>> this >>>>> dead horse. I don't believe irritation over this minor issue (for >> me) >>>>> will >>>>> make me a better photographer. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Tim >>>>> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf >>>> Of >>>>> J. >>>>> C. O'Connell >>>>> Sent: 8. oktober 2006 17:34 >>>>> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' >>>>> Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? >>>>> >>>>> Why settle for shit for no reason? >>>>> Glass is still definitely half empty. >>>>> jco >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf >>>> Of >>>>> Tim Øsleby >>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 11:27 AM >>>>> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' >>>>> Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? >>>>> >>>>> I stand corrected, silly me. My perception is obviously wrong >>>>> [slapping myself happily over forehead]. >>>>> >>>>> The glass is half empty, not half full. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Tim >>>>> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf >>>> Of >>>>> J. >>>>> C. O'Connell >>>>> Sent: 8. oktober 2006 17:03 >>>>> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' >>>>> Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? >>>>> >>>>> No, an "extra bonus" on a $1000 top line camera would be >>>>> A camera that could read the PK PKM lens aperture setting. That > this >>>> is >>>>> Not done is ridiculous as its friggin SIMPLE to implement... >>>>> Semi automanual manual is good but it aint open aperture AE >>>>> With PK PKM, while is very possible but still is not done. >>>>> jco >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf >>>> Of >>>>> Tim Øsleby >>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 10:46 AM >>>>> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' >>>>> Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? >>>>> >>>>> Welcome onboard David. >>>>> >>>>> I had exactly the same thoughts as you about metering manual lenses >>>>> before I >>>>> tried it. In real life, it is no problem. After 15 minutes using > it, >>>> you >>>>> will get used to it. >>>>> In high speed situation you must think a bit ahead, watching at the >>>>> light. >>>>> If lighting changes you need to re push the button every now and >> then >>>> to >>>>> make sure to get the exposure right before the decisive moment. >>>>> >>>>> Lack of matrix metering is a bit frustrating. But in most > situations >>>> you >>>>> can >>>>> get around it using the histogram fine tuning the exposure. It's > the >>>>> same as >>>>> the green button thing. You need to think a bit ahead, being >> prepared >>>>> for >>>>> the decisive moment. >>>>> >>>>> But what can you expect. Consider the ability to use old lenses as >> an >>>>> extra >>>>> bonus. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Tim >>>>> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf >>>> Of >>>>> David Bliss >>>>> Sent: 8. oktober 2006 10:01 >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I'm new to the list but I've been reading the archives for the last >>>> few >>>>> weeks so hopefully I will not make too much of a fool of myself. >> I'm >>>> a >>>>> long >>>>> time amateur user of Pentax 35mm film gear about to buy my first >>> DSLR. >>>> I >>>>> was >>>>> minutes away from buying a K100D when the K10D was announced... >>>>> >>>>> I have a lot of manual-aperture K-mount glass, so being able to use >>> it >>>>> on >>>>> a new DSLR is important to me. I know there are workarounds for >>> using >>>>> such on the K100D but they're pretty bad (metering on DOF-preview >>> only >>>>> and/or manually setting aperture to match the lens's). >>>>> >>>>> The dpreview page >>>>> (http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pentaxk10d/page2.asp) >>>>> and a few other verbatim copies thereof explicitly says >>>>> "Ability to use lens aperture ring" so I was very excitted to think >>>> that >>>>> Pentax would have finally fixed this (idiotic) design error on the >>>> K10D. >>>>> But, the press photos of the K10D clearly show an absence of a >>>>> mechanical >>>>> aperture coupling lever. And the (mis)released manual from a > couple >>>> of >>>>> days ago documents the same behavior as the K100D. Can anyone >>> confirm >>>>> this for sure one was or the other? >>>>> >>>>> Also, can anyone explain to me why the K100D (and apparently the >>> K10D) >>>>> disable >>>>> (a) non-central AF sensors (for focus confirmation, not AF, >>> obviously) >>>>> and >>>>> (b) all the metering modes except CWA when using a pre-A lens? I >>>> cannot >>>>> conceive of any possible reason these features would care about the >>>> lens >>>>> aperture being set manually. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> David Bliss >>>>> >>>>> >> > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
