JCO: In the ideal world I could still buy parts for my beloved Datsun 240Z but hey, times change. If Pentax put out a camera that worked with our old lenses they would never sell their new lenses. That would make you and I happy but only for a year or two. When Pentax announced it went out of business because nobody was buying their lenses neither you nor I would be very happy - Think Minolta users. Life's a compromise and I think you and I did a lot better than those Canon users who had to trade in those gorgeous F1s for an EOS and $50,000 worth of new lenses... Vic On 8-Oct-06, at 7:37 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> Not sure what you mean by "leaving behind 30 yr old technology"? > They are not moving forward, they are moving backward if > Lenses are LOSING key features they have already had for > 30 years. This isnt a case where progress necessitated > this, like a new mount, this is a case of plain out abandonment > of millions of PENTAX brand K lenses features. Would you buy a film > body without these longtime features? I wouldn't. > jco > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Vic MacBournie > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 7:28 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? > > I kind of enjoy JCO's arguments... I like to see the different angles > he takes to respond to the various posts. I think he's just trying to > make a point that he's not happy with the way pentax has moved forward > leaving behind 30-year-old technology die-hards like him and I to cry > in our beer about the good old days when little steel things protruded > from the lenses. i agree wholeheartedly with him but have chosen to > enjoy what compatibility that is still left. Every time I think about > selling my old lenses I put them on my ist D and that ends that > idea.... I like to think of all my old lenses like limited lenses. When > I pack my bag full of Ks and Ms and As it's like having a whole camera > bag of limited lenses without the autofocus.... LOL.... > Vic > > > > On 8-Oct-06, at 7:13 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > >> Hello David, >> >> Add a filter to your email application to just put JCO's ranting in >> the trash automatically. I turn on that filter every time he starts >> in on this nonsense. As John Forbes said, it happens about every six >> months. >> >> Others have answered the question, but here's the scoop: >> >> To use pre-A series M/K-mount lenses, or any A series or later lens >> with the lens taken off the A setting, you >> >> 0) Set the custom function to "Using Aperture Ring - Permitted" >> >> This tells the camera to operate the aperture mechanism in K mount >> mode when the camera mode selector is set to Manual. Since the camera >> does not have the mechanical aperture simulator, when you fit a lens >> as above you >> >> 1) set the mode selector to Manual >> 2) set the aperture you want to use with the lens' aperture ring >> 3) be sure the meter is activated (a half press on the shutter button >> activates the meter circuitry) >> 4) press the green button /AE-Lock button >> >> The camera will stop down the lens briefly, take a reading, and set >> the appropriate shutter speed. This is not auto exposure, to my way >> of thinking, but semi-automatic exposure operation. It is simple and >> fluid in use, although I'm the first to say that I don't like mixing >> post-A and pre-A series lenses much because having to switch modes on >> the camera and modes of thought in use can lead to errors. >> >> I am pretty sure we'll never see another Pentax with the mechanical >> aperture simulator, but I'd be happy to be wrong on that count. Don't >> hold your breath for it. ;-) >> >> Godfrey >> >> On Oct 8, 2006, at 9:44 PM, David Bliss wrote: >> >>> I guess the question I REALLY meant to ask was: what, if anything, >>> does >>> dpreview's assertion that you can "use lens aperture ring" mean, >>> since it clearly doesn't mean what I think it means? Even on A >>> lenses, >>> I for one would much rather set the aperture using the lens >>> aperture ring, >>> with a nice big custom-designed control, than use a stupid fiddly >>> knob on >>> the camera body -- just like when doing manual focus I want to use > the >>> lens focus control and not twiddle a potentiometer like on one of >>> my old >>> Sony cameras (and most non-pro video cameras). >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

