In a message dated 10/12/2006 3:42:44 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What's the point of bullshitting people and beating around the bush.  No
one will grow or learn without honest and meaningful commentary about their
work.  Comments like you and others frequently post - "It doesn't do
anything for me." are essentially as worthless as "I like it" as far as a
criticism goes.  WHY do you like it, or WHY doesn't a photo do something
for you.

I just don't agree with you.

Shel
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Actually, I was agreeing with you that you didn't call it crap.  I said that 
RW has called things crap in the past. I think I was directing my comments 
about that more elsewhere, Shel, and you read a lot into them. You might reread 
what I said. You might not.

I do try when I can, usually I can't, to be specific about why something 
doesn't work for me. It's when people say something is crap, or trite, or 
boring 
without any much other feedback, that I think it's just unkind and unhelpful. 
Or more than unkind. Whether a criticism is harsh or not, well, that will 
depend a lot on who is receiving it and whether they think it was warranted. 
Your 
criticism of John's photo was too harsh for me, but not evidentially for him.

Chill, Shel, we are more in agreement than not.  :-) 

Marnie aka Doe 

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