Dear John O'Connell, If you want people to do something, try asking them politely. It usually works.
Best wishes John On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:11:44 +0100, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I WAS INVOLVED. > > Y O U W E R E N ' T ! > > Its pure specualtive BS coming from you & > At my expense. That's wrong. > > BUTT OUT! > > J C O > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > David Savage > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 9:54 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey > > You've been carping on about this for a couple of day's now in a > public forum. If you don't want people to comment, take it off list. > > Dave > > On 10/26/06, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Butt out. >> >> Stop slanderiing me with no evidence >> Whatsover on the matter other than >> The other partied self admitted incomplete >> Memory of the resolution. >> >> You were not involved and have no >> Right to be continuing with this >> Nonsense based on your incorrect >> "hunches". >> >> JCO >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of >> John Forbes >> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 4:47 AM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey >> >> On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 08:30:55 +0100, J. C. O'Connell > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> wrote: >> >> > Yes I misread that one. Most likely because its >> > A double negative. Most satisfactory would have >> > Have been just as easy but you don't want you >> > Use anything but the term unsatisfactory in your >> > posts on the Issue of course. >> >> The word "satisfactory" is inappropriate in this context. When one > has >> a >> dispute, and the other person is rude and unpleasant, the outcome can >> never be satisfactory whether one obtains a full refund or not. >> >> Perhaps our intellectual capabilities are rather different, but I > don't >> >> think a double negative is a very difficult concept to grasp. The > fact >> is >> that the deal was unsatisfactory for both of you - you had to waste > time >> >> and make a refund; Shel had to waste time and put up with your > rudeness. >> >> Of course we only have Shel's word for all this, but it is supported > by >> >> 400 abusive posts from you as circumstantial evidence. And before you >> tell me that there were only 378 or whatever, I confess that my figure >> was >> just a guess. >> >> However, I note that this latest post from you contains no abuse, just >> sarcasm. That is a major step forward. >> >> John >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > jco >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >> Of >> > John Forbes >> > Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:29 AM >> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> > Subject: Re: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey >> > >> > On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:11:22 +0100, J. C. O'Connell >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >> > wrote: >> > >> >> Are both you and him retarded or what? >> >> Why would he chose the LEAST satifactory >> > >> > Just read what I wrote, you halfwit. "Least UNsatisfactory" >> > >> > Your rudeness is unbelievable, but your stupidity is worse. >> > >> > John >> > >> > >> >> Option I gave him. He wouldn't he chose >> >> The BEST option I gave him of course which >> >> Was even better than a full refund including >> >> Shipping both ways which is a complete >> >> Cancellation of the deal with zero cost >> >> To the customer. >> >> >> >> He has no freaking right to complaing if >> >> Chose his so called worst option because that's his >> >> Own stupidity if he is standing by that. >> >> >> >> Secondly, I already stated this many times, >> >> I did not verbally abuse him and my TOTAL >> >> Refund offer is about as good as it gets >> >> When there is a dispute. Thirdly, did you >> >> Read the part about where he made the dispute >> >> WELL AFTER he received the item and I still >> >> Gave him both the full refund offer and partial >> >> Refund offers. You are an idiot if you >> >> Think that I didn't treat him fairly on >> >> That deal because that is as fair as >> >> It gets on item condtion disputes. >> >> >> >> And Fourth, he thought I sold him a "PERFECT" >> >> Lens when the listing made no such condition >> >> Claims whatsoever. He was doomed for dissatisfaction >> >> Right from the start if he expected a PERFECT >> >> Lens when it wasn't listed that way. You cant >> >> Expect MORE than listed and complain about >> >> It if you don't get MORE than listed. >> >> He is just being a malicious person for even >> >> Starting this issue on the thread and IMHO >> >> He had no right to make his initial post the >> >> Way he did considering how that deal was >> >> Handled by both me (good) and him (bad). >> >> >> >> >> >> jco >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf >> > Of >> >> John Forbes >> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 5:28 AM >> >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> >> Subject: Re: Dealing with eBay vendors. Was: Re: The JCO survey >> >> >> >> On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 07:24:40 +0100, graywolf > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Boy, there must be something out there lessoning me. I had a > recent >> >> deal >> >>> that I was not too happy about. Not the item, but the way the > seller >> >> was >> >>> acting. In the end it worked out, but I was up in the air about >> >>> feedback. Now this here, and a thread on another list made my > think >> > it >> >>> through, and I realized I could not give a rating based upon what > I >> >>> felt, but had to base it upon how the transaction turned out. I > just >> >>> left him a positive. >> >>> >> >>> Anyone can make a mistake. All you can do when that happens is > offer >> >> to >> >>> make sure it does not cost your customer anything. That means a > full >> >>> refund including all shipping. If John offered that then there is >> no, >> >>> not any, in any, way that the customer has a valid complaint. >> >> >> >> Sorry, I disagree. As Shel has posted, he took a partial refund as >> the >> >> least unsatisfactory option. Any Ebay dispute is worrying, and I > can >> >> imagine that dealing with JCO would be highly traumatic. >> >> >> >> John >> >> >> >>> Now, I will be the first to note that he has no idea of when to > shut >> >> up, >> >>> but he seems to share that with a lot of folks here on the list, >> >>> including yours truly at times. But, damn it, once a deal is done > it >> >> is >> >>> done. I have always hated those folks who save up complaints to > dump >> >> on >> >>> you maybe years later. However, I am going to filter out any > further >> >>> posts with JCO in the title, flame wars are not fun to me. >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
