Make you wanna scrap your 6Mp cameras doesn't it? I mean, why would you use them anymore? Be honest, I wouldn't if what your'e saying is correct and I have no reason to believe it isn't. I said this before, at this stage, DSLRS are still short term, almost disposable, cameras as the newer ones keep getting signifigantly better and better...Totally unlike film cameras where all you have to do is install the latest technology films. That doesnt mean they are not good values, they certainly are, its just I would never expect to keep using the same one long term, like 5 yrs or more until they reach the point of recording everything the lens renders, and they haven't yet ( Maybe Canon's 16MP FF is the sole exception to this rule, but maybe not ). jco
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:59 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: K10D image quality I would say the difference is dramatic in terms of sharpness and detail rendering. But my D cameras were both very good. Excellent color and relatively good exposure control. But the K10 is considerably better in almost every respect and probably equal in noise. Paul On Nov 30, 2006, at 10:40 PM, Markus Maurer wrote: > Hi Paul > you are fast and helpful and a valuable source of information for > me with > your answers, thanks! > > But, did you ever notice such **drastic** difference between your D > and K10D > as James did with the DL? > It does not sound that dramatic from your report.... > greetings > Markus > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Paul Stenquist > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 4:20 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: K10D image quality > > > I've shot 16,000 images with a D body and about 600 with a K10. I > shoot RAW only with both. I've found that my K10 images are closer to > correct when I first open them in the converter. I don't know what > that means when one is shooting RAW, but I'm certainly pleased. In > regard to sharpness and definition, there is no comparison. The K10D > images are far superior. In regard to noise, I believe it's about a > tossup. I know this goes against prevailing wisdom, but the 1600 > images I've shot with the K10 look quite good. I rarely shoot that > high an IS) with the D, so it's tough to compare. But these seem > better or at least "as good." I might also add that the K10D tends to > deliver a bit more exposure at the same setting as I used on the D. > That could explain the relatively low perceived noise. > Paul > On Nov 30, 2006, at 10:08 PM, Markus Maurer wrote: > >> Hi James >> >> I would be interested to see a comparison among all of the digital >> Pentax >> bodies with the same lens. >> Could you possible have got a bad sample of the DL or can anybody >> confirm >> the red cast and other things mentioned? >> Is there indeed a different amount of "photoshopping" required with >> the >> D/DS/DL/K family? >> Since I soon will buy my first digital body.... >> >> greetings >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Behalf Of >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 12:50 AM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: K10D image quality >> >> >> Here's the link to the comparison shots...as I said, they're tiny >> but the >> difference is >> very noticeable. Both were iso200 with auto whitebalance in aperture >> priority with >> the lens stopped right down. >> >> http://tinyurl.com/y5mqe4 >> >> Another interesting thing is that these files have been resized to >> exactly >> the same >> number of pixels, however the K10D file is about 25% larger. >> Clearly the >> K10D >> captures and retains more data. >> >> Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: >> >>> There may be wailing and gnashing of teeth over on DPReview about >>> perceived problems >>> with the K10D, but my initial impressions with my new K10D are that >>> this camera delivers >>> astonishing image quality! Images are much sharper right out of the >>> camera (even with >>> the same lens) than my istDL. The colour balance and rendition are >>> vastly superior to >>> the istDL and the tonal gradations and shadow detail (in fact >>> dynamic >>> range in general) >>> are also vastly superior to the DL. >>> >>> Every shot from the DL had to be quite drastically tweaked in levels >>> to get rid of the red >>> cast in every shot. Levels, curves, selective colour and slight >>> selective saturation >>> adjustments are part of my regular workflow for images from the DL. >>> >>> Last night, I found that a very quick and subtle tweak of levels and >>> curves were all I >>> needed to get more than satisfactory results from my K10D files. >>> >>> They really do POP! I also did an experiment with the same lens, >>> same settings on the >>> tripod, etc between the two cameras. I shot RAW and converted to >>> JPEG with no >>> adjustments whatsoever. Unfortunately, I resized them a little too >>> small, so I'll redo it >>> with larger files, but the difference between the two was >>> staggering. >>> >>> In isolation the istDL shot looks okay. When compared to the K10D >>> shot, the istDL shot >>> is unacceptably soft, muddy, underexposed and red. The difference >>> really did blow me >>> away. >>> >>> Long story short...even though I had built the K10D up a huge >>> amount, >>> it has certainly >>> met my expectations. >>> >>> The only issue I've had is the shake reduction appears to be a >>> little >>> intermittant. >>> Sometimes it works (you can hear it during exposure) and >>> sometimes it >>> doesn't. >>> >>> Cheeers >>> James >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
