Couple of things to consider - the kit lens only goes as wide as 18mm - the 16-45 goes to 16. That is somewhat like comparing 24mm to 28mm in the film 35mm arena. So the wideness is noticeable. On top of that, it is a constant f4 aperture while the kit lens is variable from 3.5 to 5.6. So the kit is slower and has the general issues of a changing aperture as you zoom. So even if the image quality was the same, there are good reasons to consider the DA 16-45/4 over the kit lens. From my experience, the DA 16-45 is better image quality than the kit. So if the 16-50/2.8 is going to be too rich for your blood, I wouldn't hesitate to get the DA 16-45.
-- Bruce Saturday, December 2, 2006, 7:48:57 AM, you wrote: MC> I have been restraining myself from buying the 16-45 for months now, MC> anticipating the weather-sealed lenses. I had not heard about a MC> 16-50 2.8, which would likely be out of my budget range anyway, and MC> with the rebate it's getting really difficult for me to control my MC> LBA shakes. Is the 16-45 that far head and shoulder above the kit MC> lens? I've been pretty impressed with the kit, but it definitely has MC> its shortcomings. MC> On Dec 2, 2006, at 7:20 AM, David J Brooks wrote: >> Quoting John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >>> On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 08:11:40PM -0500, David J Brooks wrote: >>>> Anyone heard if its happining. >>>> >>>> I would love to get this lens and the K10d >>>> >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> Equine Photography in York Region >>> >>> >>> The new lenses aren't due until March of next year. >>> Realistically this probably means I won't be able to get my >>> hands on one before my Las Vegas trip in early April :-( >> >> We are heading there in late April for our 25th wedding anniversary, >> so maybe i'll be able to get one by then. >> >> Dave >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> >> >> >> >> Equine Photography in York Region >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

