Thanks, Tom. I left the foreground in, as I've consistently done in the case of 'water' shots simply to keep the water from running out on my lap. =) I don't object a bit to your fiddling with any of my images in any way you wish. I had someone suggest that I should have had more shoreline to the bottom left. The shore line follows the bend in the river and, in addition, I didn't want any more weight on the right. I very often prefer panorama crops, but, meaning no disrespect, I don't like it as you've done. Feels sort of smothered and peek-a-boo-ish. I did remove a sliver of the top, but left all tree tops.
Again, thanks for thoughts. Jack --- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not sure I can speak for Ken. In retrospect he may be talking about > working > the subject and working it as separate shots. But since you asked.... > > The foreground shoreline makes the entire scene look askew, to me. I > would > crop it totally out. I would crop out the sky down to a level a > little more > than halfway between the top edge and the large green tree that is > present > on the right. You'll end up with panorama-style shot, but it feels > more > balance and refined to me. > > I posted the suggested crop here, if you'll forgive me. I'll remove > the > photo tomorrow. > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5297521 > > > Tom C. > > > > >From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > >Subject: Re: Sac. River Fall > >Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 16:26:11 -0800 (PST) > > > >Tom, Thanks! > >Maybe you can explain what Ken is talking about. > >Sounds to me like he's suggestion making it into two vertical > crops.(?) > > > >Jack > >--- Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Same thoughts as mine... I just wasn't going to say. ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> > > > >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]> > > > >Subject: Re: Sac. River Fall > > > >Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 18:41:28 -0500 > > > > > > > > > Please explain what you mean when you say, "I hope you worked > > > this as I > > > > > see other images here"? > > > > > > > >Vertical orientation-especially of the RH shoreline > > > >tighter shot-especially concentrating on the foggy LH shoreline. > > > > > > > >Kenneth Waller > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Jack Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Subject: Re: Sac. River Fall > > > > > > > > > > > > >I would have liked to have had something happening in the sky, > but > > > feel > > > > > that this scene, as shot, can stand on its own. > > > > > Please explain what you mean when you say, "I hope you worked > > > this as I > > > > > see other images here"? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, for comments. > > > > > > > > > > Jack > > > > > --- Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> The main drawback I see with this image is the blank (almost > ) > > > > >> sky. Also I'd either include more foreground on the LH or > less. > > > > >> I hope you worked this as I see other images here. > > > > >> > > > > >> Kenneth Waller > > > > >> > > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > > >> From: "Jack Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >> > > > > >> Subject: PESO: Sac. River Fall > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > K10D (w/16x45 f/4) and I drove along the Sacramento River > > > levee > > > > >> just > > > > >> > after sunrise this morning, waiting for the fog to lift or > > > thin. > > > > >> Came > > > > >> > upon this bend which was just becoming partially visible. > I > > > stood > > > > >> on > > > > >> > the levee (Thinsulate lined jacket on) for about 20 mins, > > > during > > > > >> which > > > > >> > I did some serious shivering. > > > > >> > Had the K10D on a 3021 Manfrotto tripod w/pro ball head, 2 > > > > >> sec/mirror > > > > >> > up pre-release with cable switch. 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