Only supposition, but from logical inference.  The *ist-D was 
unavailable from any source for months maybe even as long as a year.  
Even B&H had removed it from their web site a while back.  Now suddenly 
they are available, at bargain prices.  It doesn't take much brain power 
to realize that Pentax has most probably offered them to retailers at a 
huge discount before they're stuck with the lot of them.

J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> You do lose money if you buy too many
> to get a good price and the market then
> goes south due to better cheaper models
> before you have sold them all. This happens
> all the time in technology based retail...
> I dont think you have any real basis to 
> KNOW that they are NOT losing money
> on these. I have a hunch they are. To say
> they put these kits together fairly cheaply
> could be quite wrong...
> jco
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> P. J. Alling
> Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 4:12 AM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: *istD kits down to $499 New
>
>
> Because I worked in Retail John, you don't make money by loosing money 
> on each sale and making it up on volume.
>
> J. C. O'Connell wrote:
>   
>> I still dont see why you think this seller
>> got/gets the NEW *istD bodies cheap. They may be
>> losing their ass on them. I dont know,
>> but how do you?
>> jco
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
>> Of P. J. Alling
>> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 4:30 PM
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: *istD kits down to $499 New
>>
>>
>> Think computers, the *ist-D is a discontinued computer.  It's
>> replacement is available now.  It's being dumped before another 
>> generation  makes it unsaleable.  The 28-80 doesn't have a sterling 
>> reputation and they were made to be sold with the *ist film cameras.  
>> I'll bet Pentax has a ton of them, for which there is not much demand.
>>     
>
>   
>> Most film users can afford cameras with higher perceived value most of
>>     
>
>   
>> which can use or need to use an aperture ring.  The lens is an orphan.
>>     
>
>   
>> Once again it's being dumped before it becomes unsaleable.  This is
>>     
> just
>   
>> the beginning of the price slide.  B&H photo is still selling the 
>> *ist-D
>>
>> for 799 without lens.  But look to see much deeper discounting real 
>> soon. Face it with an APS sensor 28-80 is not a very popular focal 
>> length.
>> 18-50 or so is.
>>
>> J. C. O'Connell wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> High price? Wasnt the istD originally
>>> over $1000 for just the body? This is
>>> about $450 for a new *istD body and
>>> about $50 for all the rest including the
>>> FAJ lens by my estimate.....How do you
>>> know they got them (the bodies) cheap?
>>> jco
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>>> Of P. J. Alling
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 3:29 PM
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>> Subject: Re: *istD kits down to $499 New
>>>
>>>
>>> Nope, not wide at all, (like 43mm on a FF film camera), and the FAJ 
>>> is FF.  They're unloading a kit they put together fairly cheaply at a
>>>       
>
>   
>>> relatively high price.
>>>
>>> J. C. O'Connell wrote:
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160060811759
>>>>
>>>> Seems like they are trying to unload these
>>>> older leftover models now.....
>>>>
>>>> How about that kit lens : Pentax SMC FAJ 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 Autofocus
>>>>         
>
>   
>>>> Zoom Lens? Is that a APS or FF lens? Curious be because 28 isnt very
>>>>         
>
>   
>>>> wide on APS now is it?
>>>>
>>>> jco
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>   
>>     
>
>
>   


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