Isn't that what the K100D is for, and rightly so. The K10D is aimed at a higher audience. It was never expected to sell in such large numbers for good reason.
Tom C wrote: > Then they misread what MOST people, not myself, MOST people want out of the > camera. That is the best possible result w/o any post-exposure manipulation. > > I don't know why they refuse to get that simple fact. If we shoot RAW it's > one thing, but people readiing the review thatwant the best possible .jpg > w/o manipulation will likely fail to be impressed. > > Tom C. > > > > > >> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: K10D review online >> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 18:02:08 -0800 >> >> >> On Dec 15, 2006, at 5:21 PM, Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote: >> >> >>> .. In fact now I'm thinking that the jpeg "issue" may be a design >>> decision. *If* it's tuned for better tonal gradation (I hope I'm using >>> the correct words), the dynamic range will be lowered (since you have >>> only 8 bits/channel to store the data). But I have no idea if this is >>> really the case. .. >>> >> I am sure that this is the case. >> >> There is a thread at DPReview >> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp? >> forum=1036&message=21284539 >> where someone is calling for a mass request to Pentax for a firmware >> update. I found this reply interesting. >> >> >>> Forum Pentax SLR Talk >>> Subject received this reply: >>> Posted by chrswggl >>> Date/Time 9:03:20 PM, Friday, December 15, 2006 (GMT) >>> >>> >>> >>> Dear Sir/Madam, >>> >>> Thank you for contacting Pentax. >>> >>> Quotes from DPReview: >>> http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentaxk10d/page11.asp >>> >>> "Sharpness: >>> As we have seen on previous Pentax digital SLR's the default >>> sharpness level is a little more conservative than other cameras, >>> that's not a bad thing and simply means that if you want your >>> images a little sharper out of the camera just select +1 or +2. >>> We also note that Pentax appear to be using a sharpening >>> algorithm which produces 'undershoot' (a darkening of black side >>> of contrast on an edge) rather than 'overshoot' (white halos), >>> this can be seen most obviously on the watch fingers in the +3 >>> crop. Unfortunately this appears to leave some black edges >>> looking a little soft and increasing the sharpness setting >>> doesn't help. " >>> >>> "When we reviewed the K100D we thought Pentax had got their image >>> processing just right, however the single element of the entire >>> K10D equation which left us scratching our heads was just that. >>> Either a poorly implemented demosaicing algorithm or a strange >>> choice of sharpening parameters means that while the K10D's JPEG >>> images have plenty of 'texture' they can lack the edge sharpness >>> we're used to seeing from semi-pro digital SLR's. >>> >>> Pentax may well have been aiming for a smooth film-like >>> appearance but I at least feel that the inability to tweak this >>> out by increasing sharpness is a mistake. That said it's unlikely >>> you'll see this difference in any print up to A3 size, it's a >>> 100% view thing so you have to decide if that's important to you >>> or not. To get that absolute crisp appearance you'll need to >>> shoot RAW, and use Adobe Camera RAW or another third party >>> converter (as the supplied converter produces similar results to >>> the camera). >>> >>> With the criticism out of the way we return to the K10D as a >>> 'photographic tool', something it does very well. It's a camera >>> you get used to very quickly and never really leaves you >>> searching for the correct setting or control. It's also a camera >>> you can grow into, the unique exposure modes are both creatively >>> interesting and useful, a range of options such as this encourage >>> you to experiment. At just under $900 it's a very strong >>> proposition, so despite our reservations about the slightly soft >>> image processing the K10D just achieves a Highly Recommended." >>> >>> >>> This is something that we could change with a firmware update, >>> but to the best of my knowledge the camera is working as intended >>> by our designers, so such a firmware update is unlikely. >>> >>> If you prefer a sharper shot to a softer feel, then you will >>> probably wish to shoot in the DNG RAW format instead of PEF RAW >>> or JPG. >>> >>> If you prefer a smoother image, then you will want to shoot in >>> PEF RAW or JPG. >>> >>> >>> If you are in need of further assistance, please respond to this >>> email or call our technical support center at 800-877-0155. >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> Dorian B. >>> Pentax Imaging Technical Support >>> ---- >>> >> Now the intriguing question, to me, is Dorian's statement: >> >> >>> -- >>> If you prefer a sharper shot to a softer feel, then you will >>> probably wish to shoot in the DNG RAW format instead of PEF RAW >>> or JPG. >>> >>> If you prefer a smoother image, then you will want to shoot in >>> PEF RAW or JPG. >>> -- >>> >> This implies one of two things: >> >> Either there is some image processing applied to the RAW data in PEF >> and JPEG output modes that isn't applied to the DNG output mode, or >> Dorian is assuming Pentax Lab for PEF conversion which performs >> different smoothing/cleanup compared to when it processes K10D PEFs. >> It might also be an answer to the comments that Pentax Lab and >> Silkypix produce different RAW conversion results with PEF vs Camera >> Raw and Lightroom with DNG. This is an interesting question mark and >> I'm curious to see what happens when Adobe supports K10D PEF files. >> Meanwhile I'm going to devise a test to see if I can find subtle >> differences ... >> >> >>> I don't use jpeg anyway. So I don't really care :) >>> >> :-) >> >> Ach. Someday all this flap will be over and I'll spend more time >> doing PHOTOGRAPHY again, rather than being an equipment weenie. >> >> Godfrey >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> > > > > -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
