Seen it, on several good sets. It's pretty. But the quality gain isn't 
all that much over a good analog set, certainly not enough to justify 
the massive increase in cost. And there is no quality gain over a good 
monitor playing back high-bitrate video. In fact, for quality, the HD 
sets (even the best) aren't up to a good widescreen LCD. Since I'd have 
at most 1 other person watching as I have a small apartment and rarely 
have anyone other than my GF over, a 21" or 24" widescreen is more than 
sufficient.

And the DRM on HD broadcasts is obnoxious. Enough that I'll not get an 
HD tuner even for a PC.

Frankly, I've seen some HD and Blu-Ray DVD's. So far most look actually 
worse than the plain DVD version and notably inferior to a Superbit DVD. 
This will change as they get native versions rather than poorly 
upsampled from DVD versions. But currently you'll get the best quality 
from a good DVD on a progressive scan set rather than an HD format, and 
480i isn't all that far behind.

Outside of gaming and maybe sports, HD offers absolutely nothing I 
value. And I don't watch much sports.

-Adam


J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> ARE YOU BLIND? I have been enjoying
> glorious HDTV for several years now and after
> the first few months I couldnt even watch
> the old analog signals anymore. Its incredible and
> has approx 10 times the resolution of an 
> analog signal on a letterboxed 4:3 screen.
> Even more if you want to compare to VHS
> which is too absured to even mention.
> 
> 1080i format is SIX times rez of DVD format and
> you cant even get progressive scanning
> with any old 4x3 sets. 
> 
> You are DEAD WRONG about HDTV being
> "mostly a scam". Its the greatest
> home entertainment product of all time
> IMHO and I cant imagine ever going
> back to crappy analog, it looks
> so fake compared to what good HD
> looks like. Your crediblity has
> been seriously breached with these
> comments, thats for sure because
> these new HDTV sets simply BLOW AWAY
> anything ever possible on the
> old NTSC sets with analog signals.
> Its not just defintion either, they
> have better contrast range, less
> electronic artifacts, less luminance
> and chromanace noise, better color
> accuracy, better color gamut, and
> better sound too. Its a "blowout" 
> compared to ntsc.
> 
> jco
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Adam Maas
> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 1:22 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: It's snowing in hell --OT
> 
> 
> Seen HDTV, not worth the cost. A good HD set costs more than my laptop, 
> for little benefit (unless you host several people at once and thus need
> 
> a larger screen further from you).
> 
> HD is mostly a scam to get you to buy new HD-DVD's or Blu-Ray DVD's to 
> replace your DVD collection, while ensuring you can't record TV 
> broadcasts for your archive.
> 
> -Adam
> Who *may* go HD when he gets an Xbox 360, but only for the games which 
> actually do benefit from more resolution.
> 
> 
> J. C. O'Connell wrote:
>> My God, this is the HDTV era for 8 years
>> already! Get yourself
>> a good HDTV and get free DVDS ( they look
>> way better on a progressive scan HDTV
>> than any analog 4x3 set can ) from the
>> library. You dont know what you're missing,
>> especailly if you can appreciate good
>> imaging/cinematography and being a photographer already kinda proves 
>> that. jco
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
>> Of graywolf
>> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 12:16 PM
>> To: PDML
>> Subject: It's snowing in hell --OT
>>
>>
>> Graywolf got a new pet, a television. There it was sitting in the 
>> thrift
>>
>> store looking all sad and abandoned, so he paid $15 + tax to spring 
>> it.
>> It sulked at first shutting itself off after less than an hour, and 
>> graywolf thought he was going to have to turn it out on the streets.
> But
>> a thorough cleaning, wasn't filthy but 25 years of dust on its circuit
>> boards mostly came off and a night to get used to its new home, and it
> 
>> seems to be working nicely.
>>
>> Like any new pet graywolf is going to have to buy it some things, a
>> remote, and a longer cable as the one he has is not long enough to 
>> tether it to the splitter and he has to change back and forth between
> it
>> and the modem in the mean time. And later a VCR so graywolf can watch
>> movies from the local public library. Maybe an upgrade in cable
> service.
>> This could be a very expensive pet.
>>
>> OH? The breed? Magnavox 27in stereo console. By its tag it was born
>> early in 1983 and cost $539.97 ($849.95 list). Does that make it an 
>> antique, or just an old TV?
>>
>> One would think the thing would take up a lot of space, but actually
>> instead of taking up space it provides a table to place things like
> the 
>> DVD player and the Epson printer on.
>>
>> Anyway as the subject line implies graywolf buying a TV is a very rare
>> occurrence, it has only happened twice in 63 years.
>>
>>
> 
> 


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